The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

[Kolsykol]

Ugh, the coping.

What exactly about what I said is wrong?
This is just a commonly accepted thing in psychology too, if you get 100 comments and one is negative it's very common for people to focus more on the negative comment.
People in general are more prone to pay attention to negativity because we're conditioned to look for perceived threats.

That's why a handful of morons can make it seems like it's a much bigger problem than it is, I have the same experience in WoW too.
I never said that what they're doing is right I did say that it's wrong in earlier comments.
But if it was an issue with '' the community '' then it'd be far worse, there's not even that many people following him around it's a handful of people at most.

And it's not fair to judge an entire community based on what some randos on a Discord decided to do, the same way that it's not fair to judge and generalize men based on what some asshole men do.

[Velnora]

What exactly about what I said is wrong?
This is just a commonly accepted thing in psychology too, if you get 100 comments and one is negative it's very common for people to focus more on the negative comment.
People in general are more prone to pay attention to negativity because we're conditioned to look for perceived threats.

That's why a handful of morons can make it seems like it's a much bigger problem than it is, I have the same experience in WoW too.
I never said that what they're doing is right I did say that it's wrong in earlier comments.
But if it was an issue with '' the community '' then it'd be far worse, there's not even that many people following him around it's a handful of people at most.

And it's not fair to judge an entire community based on what some randos on a Discord decided to do, the same way that it's not fair to judge and generalize men based on what some asshole men do.

This hasn't been a "handful". Turning this from a negative, and spinning it into some resilience of the "great community", is the epitome of coping.

[Kolsykol]

This hasn't been a "handful". Turning this from a negative, and spinning it into some resilience of the "great community", is the epitome of coping.

Why does it have to be an either or, I've literally implied and acknowledged that there are bad people in the community.
But in a game where the community at large or to any substantial level is bad it would've been far worse than it was.
Most people weren't even harassing him or doing anything bad.

I know that you learned a new catchy word and want to throw it around every opportunity that you get, that doesn't mean that it's true.
Pointing out the obvious that apparently isn't so obvious to some people ( with alterior motives I'd imagine ) isn't coping.
I have nothing to cope about, nothing that I've said has even so much as implied that it's what I am doing either you can't just throw that at anyone you disagree with that's just intellectually lazy and dishonest.

If anything it'd make more sense in this situation for me to say that you're coping.

Maybe not the worst idea. That's why celebrities have bodyguards right?

It might be bad PR for Square Enix to show many harassments coming from FF playerbase, and GMs not doing anything to stop it.

Yeah in the end of the day Asmongold playing the game is pretty awesome marketing wise, it'd actually make sense for SE to try and make the experience as good as possible.
Dedicating a GM to keep an eye on him and deal with players harassing him wouldn't even be that big of an investement and it'd reflect very well on them and the game.

It's true tho as people have pointed out that he's used to it, I don't think he'll hold this against the game it's the same in WoW for him.

[Losara]

Honestly Asmon did a good stream today, didn't just skip every cut scene and actually read out most of it to chat. Its nice to see someone enjoy the game. Much prefer watching streamers who enjoy games over those who just buy a story skip and have no idea why they are at end game.

[Kolsykol]

Honestly Asmon did a good stream today, didn't just skip every cut scene and actually read out most of it to chat. Its nice to see someone enjoy the game. Much prefer watching streamers who enjoy games over those who just buy a story skip and have no idea why they are at end game.

Yeah, I am actually really looking forward to him getting to see the big moments with epic visuals.
I think he'll really enjoy them I've seen a lot of other Streamers get really surprised and hype about it.
FFXIV does big epic moments really well particularly in later expansions.

The dungeons early on are also too easy imo nowadays, so I am looking forward to seeing him play dungeons where bosses don't immediately die too.

[Jin-]

My dummy brain cannot fathom why would anyone follow a person for multiple hours who clearly does not want them to be there. Do they think they are part of something? (which they are not)
Can't they comprehend how pathetic it makes them to look like.
I rarely use the word loser but it came up really quick on tip of my tongue while i was watching the stream.

I was watching him stream during his first Sastasha run today and he said the other members of his party were being nice and helpful so that's good to hear.

Yes he did

[Velnora]

Why does it have to be an either or, I've literally implied and acknowledged that there are bad people in the community.
But in a game where the community at large or to any substantial level is bad it would've been far worse than it was.
Most people weren't even harassing him or doing anything bad.

I know that you learned a new catchy word and want to throw it around every opportunity that you get, that doesn't mean that it's true.
Pointing out the obvious that apparently isn't so obvious to some people ( with alterior motives I'd imagine ) isn't coping.
I have nothing to cope about, nothing that I've said has even so much as implied that it's what I am doing either you can't just throw that at anyone you disagree with that's just intellectually lazy and dishonest.

If anything it'd make more sense in this situation for me to say that you're coping.



Yeah in the end of the day Asmongold playing the game is pretty awesome marketing wise, it'd actually make sense for SE to try and make the experience as good as possible.
Dedicating a GM to keep an eye on him and deal with players harassing him wouldn't even be that big of an investement and it'd reflect very well on them and the game.

It's true tho as people have pointed out that he's used to it, I don't think he'll hold this against the game it's the same in WoW for him.

By what metric do you go off of "it would of been much worse", if the community was bad.

[Kolsykol]

By what metric do you go off of "it would of been much worse", if the community was bad.

By the metric that there are 2,5 mil active users as far as I know and his whole screen wasn't full of people following him around.
What exactly is so hard for you to understand about this?
If a significant portion of the community was bad then there would've been more than enough of them to make it completely unplayable for him.
When I was watching it was like 10-20 people at most and some people along the way doing cheer emotes and a bunch of randos on Discord is not reflective of a community as a whole.

Do you think that it's okay for people to say '' men are bad '' because some men are bad?
Just because bad men exist doesn't make it a widespread issue, all it takes is a small minority to leave a big negative impression because that's how a lot of people work.
If you think that bad people existing in the community then do you also think I'd be right for saying that men are shit then too?

Football is a good example too, in Europe violence at football matches is a bit of a cultural thing there's clubs that actively organize to fight after matches regardless of who wins.
Do you think that therefore it'd be fair to generalize the '' football community '' and say that it's bad because of those people?

Edit: Also basically your entire post history is negative and shitting on the game.
Hence why I bring up alterior motives.

SE can't babysit an entire server for one person, no matter how famous they are.

I both agree and disagree, they can definitely have a GM watching him and port out people who are insta killing his mobs.
It'd scare other people away from doing it too, I think people would stop doing it very fast if a GM made their presence known.

I don't think that asking them to keep everyone away is realistic or good.

[Ilenya]

I didn't watch much, but I figured I'd at least pop in for a bit so I'd have some basis for commenting on him. He clearly seems more used to a different system (duh), and while he clearly has a good idea of the basics here, he hasn't learned everything and hasn't tried pushing his limits yet, both which are fine. At minimum, he seems willing to learn, and actually excited to see what some of the later harder fights are.

This being the first time I've seen him stream, ignoring his chat almost entirely (How do you even read any of that?), and missing all the issues he apparently had at the beginning, I might pop in to watch more, because I find it fun seeing new players/outsiders playing the game and pointing things out. It'll be interesting regardless. I wonder if someone will teach him about minimum ilevel runs. Does WoW even have anything like that?

[Jin-]

He liked the game, even said the cutscenes were nice. I guess some of you are disappointed now that he will be playing the second day aswell
Was also talking about a possible record viewers and subs