Congratulations Square Enix! FF4 surpasses WoW this year. (Source inside)

[Y2K21]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I wish you put that much enthusiasm towards the links you post too. Because this is basically just clickbait with a lot of questionable data.

[Puremallace]

I wish you put that much enthusiasm towards the links you post too. Because this is basically just clickbait with a lot of questionable data.

This questionable data is coming some serious waves over in WoW land. It is going from a dull discontent to a flat out wave of rage across the board even with their most devoted creators. True, untrue or exaggerated the amount of people in WoW twiddling their thumbs waiting on content are being bombarded with content creators telling them FF14 is sitting here.

This community that FF14 has built that has complaints obviously PALES in comparison to how WoW players are being treated right now. Imagine if Yoshi P came out and said we have this fundamental change to how the game plays in Endwalker....he community voiced concerns and then Yoshi P came out and basically told the entire community they did not know what they were talking about. Say that same community shows faith in them and buys that expansion just to be proven 100% correct about how bad this system is.

Now the most HARDCORE of the hardcore supporters start providing them with verifiable detail, data and spreadsheets showing why this system is broken. Yoshi P responds to these people telling them they do not understand his vision for the MMO and tells them to get good or get over it. THENNNNNN every single patch after that initial launch is delayed by vast amounts of time with no new content because Yoshi P felt like he had to make this new system perfect.

We both know that the FF14 community would revolt and look for alternatives. Now imagine that Yoshi P repeated this same pattern for 3 expansions where they spend ENORMOUS development time working on new systems delaying content to throw it in the trash then start over telling the community they were the ones overreacting and not them making bad decisions.

That is why so many WoW creators are looking at FF14. They are tired of screaming at a brick wall.

Hopefully this means we get a proper budget for the mass of a game that FFXIV is.

This is long overdue. FF14 is currently biting at WoW's heals as the biggest MMO in the US and multiple other countries. Square Enix needs to realize this and give Yoshi P a blank check.

[Y2K21]

This questionable data is coming some serious waves over in WoW land. It is going from a dull discontent to a flat out wave of rage across the board even with their most devoted creators. True, untrue or exaggerated the amount of people in WoW twiddling their thumbs waiting on content are being bombarded with content creators telling them FF14 is sitting here.

This community that FF14 has built that has complaints obviously PALES in comparison to how WoW players are being treated right now. Imagine if Yoshi P came out and said we have this fundamental change to how the game plays in Endwalker....he community voiced concerns and then Yoshi P came out and basically told the entire community they did not know what they were talking about. Say that same community shows faith in them and buys that expansion just to be proven 100% correct about how bad this system is.

Now the most HARDCORE of the hardcore supporters start providing them with verifiable detail, data and spreadsheets showing why this system is broken. Yoshi P responds to these people telling them they do not understand his vision for the MMO and tells them to get good or get over it. THENNNNNN every single patch after that initial launch is delayed by vast amounts of time with no new content because Yoshi P felt like he had to make this new system perfect.

We both know that the FF14 community would revolt and look for alternatives. Now imagine that Yoshi P repeated this same pattern for 3 expansions where they spend ENORMOUS development time working on new systems delaying content to throw it in the trash then start over telling the community they were the ones overreacting and not them making bad decisions.

That is why so many WoW creators are looking at FF14. They are tired of screaming at a brick wall.

Neat diary post. Again, none of this matters when the argument was "the website has no shown equations and their numbers seem to be based off subreddit count." It is very questionable that people prop up this website as the golden Messiah -- when they actively list dead games as having a player base, have no public published equations, and openly admit to using Reddit for numbers.

This is even more questionable after the previous LuckyBancho (which lists their criteria and how they get their numbers) came back with their census at 900k-1m at their previous census with ShB at their peak having 1.25 million.

So I will actively call BS to this 2.5 million number especially when FF14 is entering a drought -- because 1.5 million active players are appearing out of nowhere and MMO-P has no active way to determine what they consider an active player.