Suggestion: Give a little Experience points in New game+ MSQ, but only once per patch

[Liham]

I think if the new game+ main scenario (at least) quests gave some experience points it will be more played.

Of course if it give too much then people will only do that, but if you limit to experience points once per major patch, it will mean it will reset 6 times per expansion and soon with 6.0 we will have 18 class to level up. (BLU does not get exp)

It does nt need to be alot just a little, because the 50/60/70 quests will also have a little and people will do the dungeons / fates / roulettes .... so just a little and maybe only up to level 70 (last before expansion cap) if you re afraid for the last expansion.

A little push but not too push that will make people take time doing new game+ i think and it could be great.

[DPZ2]

I think if the new game+ main scenario (at least) quests gave some experience points it will be more played.

Of course if it give too much then people will only do that, but if you limit to experience points once per major patch, it will mean it will reset 6 times per expansion and soon with 6.0 we will have 18 class to level up. (BLU does not get exp)

It does nt need to be alot just a little, because the 50/60/70 quests will also have a little and people will do the dungeons / fates / roulettes .... so just a little and maybe only up to level 70 (last before expansion cap) if you re afraid for the last expansion.

A little push but not too push that will make people take time doing new game+ i think and it could be great.

Given that the purpose of New game+ is to allow all of those folks who jump-skipped to MaxLevel-10 or who skipped reading every quest text or who just want to go back and reminisce about the 'good old days' of ARR that they last went through in 2014 ... it won't happen. There are many easier ways to level up -- 4K XP for a quest in ARR, 12 million XP for the daily MSQ roulette ... which would you focus on?

[Iscah]

There's no real point to incentivising NG+. If people want to play it, they'll play it for the sake of the story.

Put EXP on it and you'll have bots running the easiest section repeatedly - or worse, live players who complain bitterly about how dull it is but it's worthwhile EXP so they have to run it.

[ItMe]

It would be cool though if you could take a job from 1-cap using NG+.
It wouldn't be fast, or efficient, but it would really make it feel like you're replaying the game all over again.
I can get behind this idea OP.

[DPZ2]

It would be cool though if you could take a job from 1-cap using NG+.
It wouldn't be fast, or efficient, but it would really make it feel like you're replaying the game all over again.
I can get behind this idea OP.

SE could do it the way WoW does it ... taking every job from 1 to cap by requiring players to run through the same content again. and again. and again.

Over the 10 years I played, I managed to do exactly that, playing every class and race on both Alliance and Horde side, running through the content during the extremely long periods of No Additional Content.

You can do the same in FFXIV. Create a Bard the first run through, then, on an alt character, run through as a Dragoon, then, on another alt character, run through as a Summoner. Rinse. Repeat. You could do that without NG+, and got quest rewards (gear, emotes, the works) every single time.

Do I recommend that? Nope. NG+ wasn't designed for that (no quest rewards, no XP), but running alts has always been part of the game.

Not many people take advantage of alts in that way, preferring to run through instances, FATEs, Battle Leves, Hunts and the Ever Popular Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High in order to garner XP for their other jobs without having to run through the MSQ once again.

[ItMe]

SE could do it the way WoW does it ... taking every job from 1 to cap by requiring players to run through the same content again. and again. and again.

Over the 10 years I played, I managed to do exactly that, playing every class and race on both Alliance and Horde side, running through the content during the extremely long periods of No Additional Content.

FF14 doesn't really give us comparable stretches of "no additional content."
You could double the wait between 5.5 and 6.0 and it would only be a little over the length of WoW's second longest content drought.






All that aside, your argument is basically "but you could just use an Alt."

Not many people take advantage of alts in that way, preferring to run through instances, FATEs, Battle Leves, Hunts and the Ever Popular Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High in order to garner XP for their other jobs without having to run through the MSQ once again.

You're right, I could... but an Alt doesn't solve my issue.
It doesn't change the fact I feel it'd be nice if NG+ game me the same experience on my main, which is what I want my jobs on.

NG+ wasn't designed for that (no quest rewards, no XP), but running alts has always been part of the game.

Yes, levelling wasn't the intention of NG+, but that's not to say their intentions are perfect and we can't request what we consider a benign QoL: have NG+ give just enough exp to go from 1-cap for the fun of it.

[Stepjam]

Put EXP on it and you'll have bots running the easiest section repeatedly - or worse, live players who complain bitterly about how dull it is but it's worthwhile EXP so they have to run it.

I never thought about it, but that probably would totally happen. Already happens with MSQ roulette.

[ICountFrom0]

They won't even let me get achivements from it, so they probably won't do this, no matter how much we ask.

[ItMe]

I never thought about it, but that probably would totally happen. Already happens with MSQ roulette.

There'd only really be a danger of that if it either gave exp anywhere close to efficiently, or if they gave some other reward (like gil).
We're not asking for it to do either.

[Liham]

Given that the purpose of New game+ is to allow all of those folks who jump-skipped to MaxLevel-10 or who skipped reading every quest text or who just want to go back and reminisce about the 'good old days' of ARR that they last went through in 2014 ... it won't happen. There are many easier ways to level up -- 4K XP for a quest in ARR, 12 million XP for the daily MSQ roulette ... which would you focus on?

There is people who jump skipped and there is people who skip reading, but there are also people who just want, after many years, redo the story they liked, or like to level up doing story quest, even if slower. I am upping my craft class from 50 to 80 (depending of the jobs the level varies), i am could rush doing leve/firmament quests only in succession but i prefer doing beastmen quest / delivery / story class / ... quests slower, varied, storied and at my pace.
Its to give an optional ways, those you wish to rush or are not interested will not do it and even those interested can sometimes redo all story and roulette at the same time.

There's no real point to incentivising NG+. If people want to play it, they'll play it for the sake of the story.

Put EXP on it and you'll have bots running the easiest section repeatedly - or worse, live players who complain bitterly about how dull it is but it's worthwhile EXP so they have to run it.

There are people who wants to do it for the story sake, ok but maybe there is also people like me who every two years want to level up a class through old story quests ? (while doing all dungeons/fates along the way to supplement the weak exp)
For the bots/forced content players, that s why i propose to have a lock per patch or even expansion on the experience points rewards and to have a rather low experience rewards points (that can be supplement by other content of that level).