Another Eastern Mogstation Glam?

[Lauront]

I know it gets plenty of advertisement. Heck I see it on most webpages anymore if I'm being honest. I know stuff like that costs money as well but I do feel like they don't keep most of the profit the game brings in where the parent company makes other games and as of late a lot of them have not been doing well or raking in what they thought they would for how much they put into them.

To play devil's advocate, most (successful) companies operate with the expectation that their products will generate sufficient revenue and thus (hopefully) profit to fund other projects, as well as entice shareholders to invest in them. But the caveat to that is that the quality needs to be at a level acceptable to consumers and there's only so much the story can carry SHB.

They say their major constraint is labour rather than money-related, but I'm not really 100% convinced on that one. It may make sense with regard to very niche skillsets, where it is genuinely very hard to source the skills they need in Japan (I believe the one they keep mentioning is MMO raid combat design), but not everything they're struggling with is niche. My guess is it's down to how much SE's senior management is willing to allow the game to retain at any given point and I think SHB has proven to them the game deserves more funding, hence all these projects Yoshi has spoken of to ensure it remains competitive for its projected lifespan. Certainly, the tone was a lot more upbeat during this Fanfest and the game's future prospects.

[Vahlnir]

Oh 100%. It’s become pretty prominent to me when the game barely gets advertised at the major game functions like E3 and stuff. Instead they advertise things like their life is strange game or marvel’s flopvengers.There is no way all of our sub money and the mogstation money is going towards the game.

The game gets plenty of advertisement opportunities. That is a non issue. Currently the free trial is getting a lot of attention, and honestly that is a big move on SE's part, along with some bigger names in the WoW community openly criticizing WoW and its dev team. Even without all of this though the game's got no problems putting itself out there. A lot of the time they seem to just let the game do the talking and let word of mouth take its course.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Didn't... Didn't they have like... Sidewalk adverts everywhere in LA during some of the e3 events for XIV over the past few years? It gets plenty of advertisements. I've seen them in movie theaters too.


There's a lot of confirmation bias in these threads over what people see what they want to see when they add stuff to the Mogstation.

We've seen these threads since it was added late 2014....

They’ve had a few yes but my point is. To my knowledge it’s never been features up as a prominent thing with their major events. They usually just put their other games in. I don’t think it’s so much as confirmation bias as it is....just a problem in general with mogstation.

[KizuyaKatogami]

The game gets plenty of advertisement opportunities. That is a non issue. Currently the free trial is getting a lot of attention, and honestly that is a big move on SE's part, along with some bigger names in the WoW community openly criticizing WoW and its dev team. Even without all of this though the game's got no problems putting itself out there. A lot of the time they seem to just let the game do the talking and let word of mouth take its course.

Yeah i’m not really arguing that. The main point was about our money being put back into the game and it doesn’t seem like it.

[Vahlnir]

Yeah i’m not really arguing that. The main point was about our money being put back into the game and it doesn’t seem like it.

I'm sure some of it does, but not as much as they want us to think. I've believed that all along.

[Equitable_Remedy]

Like it. SE take my money.

[Kiurai]

I'm struggling to think of what content was cut pre Covid tbh 5.0 - 5.2 wasn't missing anything outside of a Eureka zone equivalent by 5.2 of memory serves me correctly we still have the trial fight (plus an extra ex in 5.2 with memoria miseria) the two savage tiers, the first planned ultimate, first alliance raid, only other thing we didn't have that previous expansions had by x.2 would be the 2nd patch dungeon. Combat wise thier wasn't much missing in the original x.0 to x.2 period. If I did miss something however I don't mind being proven wrong but I'm not seeing this massive content cut everyone mentions when they talk about pre covid

[KizuyaKatogami]

I'm struggling to think of what content was cut pre Covid tbh 5.0 - 5.2 wasn't missing anything outside of a Eureka zone equivalent by 5.2 of memory serves me correctly we still have the trial fight (plus an extra ex in 5.2 with memoria miseria) the two savage tiers, the first planned ultimate, first alliance raid, only other thing we didn't have that previous expansions had by x.2 would be the 2nd patch dungeon. Combat wise thier wasn't much missing in the original x.0 to x.2 period. If I did miss something however I don't mind being proven wrong but I'm not seeing this massive content cut everyone mentions when they talk about pre covid

Dungeons were already confirmed to be cut before covid started. Deep dungeon as well. Ruby weapon had no voice acting while byakko did in sb. Nier raid wasn’t voice acted while ivalice was in SB. Level 50,60,70 primal weapons missing from Gnb and Dnc. Gnb and Dnc not getting a unique Ultimate weapon model like rdm and sam. Technically SB also had 2 extra trials. Yojimbo and Rathalos(but those aren’t 4.1 or 4.2 so i digress).

[Kiurai]

Technically the 1 dng per patch started in 4.4 with the Burn and VA isn't universal so I'm not exactly counting that as cut content necessarily but primal weapons and ult weapons I completely agree with it's a strange oversight tbh

[KizuyaKatogami]

Technically the 1 dng per patch started in 4.4 with the Burn and VA isn't universal so I'm not exactly counting that as cut content necessarily but primal weapons and ult weapons I completely agree with it's a strange oversight tbh

4.4 had two dungeons. The burn and saint mociannes(hard).