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    StormyFae's Avatar
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    Serena Nisomusui
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    A lot of people forget, SE is pretty much required to put out microtransaction items for China and I believe Korea as well, they have certain deals with the companies they work within those regions... So yeah we just get them because theyre already made anyway.
    I mean i dont forget that.. But it does seem a bit sad it appears more effort into mogstation outfits than ones we can craft.. I personally wouldnt care.. If they gave some more decent ones to crafters to make

    Majority of in game armor (more than majority for casters) look like cardboard compared to mogstation items and that just horrible
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    Very surprised it's a Mogstation glam and not from an upcoming event. I do wish we could have gotten it as an ingame reward, seeing how there was no outfit from Tataru in this expansion, it would have been a nice "replacement".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Viera/hrothgar (both male and female) absolutely have an effect on this sort of content. Again, mogstation team adds content for the mogstation. It's a separate team. If people want weeb glamour there is plenty of it on mogstation. Frankly, I'd rather have it on the mogstation anyway. I hate doing the "events" in this game, they are mostly awful "feel good" stories, that amount to walking back and forth for half an hour. Unless they offer a mount, I don't even get around to doing them until the very last day, sometimes an hour before it resets.
    The problem is exactly why you stated. There’s plenty of eastern glamour on mogstation, but there’s then, very little in the actual game. As for content, it’s separate teams that work on the races as well. I’m not saying we didn’t lose content because of them, because we most certainly did, but content has been dying,cut,delayed since 5.0. I also don’t see how hard it would be to say yknow what, we didn’t have the time to make an end of expansion glamour like we normally do,so let’s put this mogstation outfit in game. How they do it idc, event, ishgard, msq. Just put it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    The problem is exactly why you stated. There’s plenty of eastern glamour on mogstation, but there’s then, very little in the actual game. As for content, it’s separate teams that work on the races as well. I’m not saying we didn’t lose content because of them, because we most certainly did, but content has been dying,cut,delayed since 5.0. I also don’t see how hard it would be to say yknow what, we didn’t have the time to make an end of expansion glamour like we normally do,so let’s put this mogstation outfit in game. How they do it idc, event, ishgard, msq. Just put it in.
    Thank God. This may be a Japanese game, but I'd rather see less of it. We already had an Eastern expansion in Stormblood that includes plenty of Japanese, Chinese, Mongolian inspired armor sets. I don't see any problem here.

    Exactly what I am saying! We were already experiencing dying, cut, delayed content, then they release two limited races, and then when they say they supposedly can't add any new races they add male viera, and promise female hrothgar that (at most) I'd say two people would play! So even less, than we would have gotten overall!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Thank God. This may be a Japanese game, but I'd rather see less of it. We already had an Eastern expansion in Stormblood that includes plenty of Japanese, Chinese, Mongolian inspired armor sets. I don't see any problem here.

    Exactly what I am saying! We were already experiencing dying, cut, delayed content, then they release two limited races, and then when they say they supposedly can't add any new races they add male viera, and promise female hrothgar that (at most) I'd say two people would play! So even less, than we would have gotten overall!
    They worked on Male Viera/Fem Hroth between other tasks when they had down time at work. Nothing was lost or cut because of the new races. Yoshi-P didn't even want them working on it; it was a project they took on themselves, like flying in ARR zones. I wish people would stop screaming "MALE VIERA/FEM HROTH MEANS WE'RE LOSING MORE CONTENT WAHHHHHHHH" because it's not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glitteringcosmos View Post
    They worked on Male Viera/Fem Hroth between other tasks when they had down time at work. Nothing was lost or cut because of the new races. Yoshi-P didn't even want them working on it; it was a project they took on themselves, like flying in ARR zones. I wish people would stop screaming "MALE VIERA/FEM HROTH MEANS WE'RE LOSING MORE CONTENT WAHHHHHHHH" because it's not true.
    So are they going to be fitting gear every single patch in their "free time" then? Couldn't they have worked on some of these "eastern glamours" in their "free time", instead of male viera? What about female viera hair? Male hrothgar heads?

    Does anyone honestly believe that the addition of male viera, and female hrothgar (one day) - the equivalent of one more full race - has no bearing on future scheduling, resource management, workload, etc. of SE?
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-11-2021 at 03:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    So are they going to be fitting gear every single patch in their "free time" then? Couldn't they have worked on some of these "eastern glamours" in their "free time", instead of male viera? What about female viera hair? Male hrothgar heads?

    Does anyone honestly believe that the addition of male viera, and female hrothgar (one day) - the equivalent of one more full race - has no bearing on future scheduling, resource management, workload, etc. of SE?
    Again what you seem to be missing is that the mogstation team is a separate team here. They're not the ones in charge of male Viera/fem Hroth. You are so determined to blame all of their issues on the development of races that you're missing the forest for the trees. No one at SE said "Oh okay so the graphics team decided to work on Male Viera instead so we're going to cut X Y Z content to make up the difference." That's ridiculous. Certainly it will impact future gear design and development, but not by as much as you're thinking. Male Hyur, Miqo, and Au Ra already share the same body type just scaled, and from first glance it appears that male Viera will utilize the same frame (speculation on my part, but there you have it). It's NOT something the mogstation glam team would have any say in, nor would the development have any impact on at this point in time.

    As for hats, hairs, and helms, I don't have an answer for you. I will concede it's 100% a frustrating situation, but we know nothing of their workflow and current priorities. Maybe it's easier to fix once they finished male Viera/fem Hroth; we don't know how long the development took, or when they started on it. Maybe they figured the demand for male Viera/fem Hroth was higher than the demand for hats/hairs. Maybe, I don't know, they're already working on hats/hairs/helms because it's on their official workload and it's a bigger task than remodeling Hyur bodies with bunny heads? I can't say for certain.

    All I know is, this catastrophizing does nothing productive. No amount of whining will change the fact that the development of male Viera has nothing to do with this conversation and you bringing it up just makes you look like a fool.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I am simply referencing Yoshida in interviews. SE are the ones stating continuously how difficult everything is to add. This expansion has lacked content, and they had to push back ultimate until.. what next year(?), yet they will come out with tons of novelty content, and the equivalent of a player race that supposedly was impossible to add, as ShB launch was their "last chance" to add any new races. I do suspect things aren't as bad as SE makes it out to be. Yet here we are. Maybe 6 months of content drought and a forever delayed expansion cycle is exactly what they needed.
    You have no idea what impact the coronavirus had on the development team. And again Ultimate is a different freaking team from the glamour teams, for crying out loud. How many times do people have to tell you this for you to understand? Different teams work at different paces. Different teams will have had different impacts from not being able to work from the office. Unless you work at SE you have no idea what the workflow situation is like. Content drought, are you serious? We have new content and events coming out every month until Endwalker except maybe October. There's a MASSIVE amount of stuff to do in the game, new content or otherwise. It's not SE's fault if you burn through the relic grind in a couple weeks and then complain to have nothing to do. Good lord, it's like you have nothing to say unless it's whining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    The problem is exactly why you stated. There’s plenty of eastern glamour on mogstation, but there’s then, very little in the actual game. As for content, it’s separate teams that work on the races as well. I’m not saying we didn’t lose content because of them, because we most certainly did, but content has been dying,cut,delayed since 5.0. I also don’t see how hard it would be to say yknow what, we didn’t have the time to make an end of expansion glamour like we normally do,so let’s put this mogstation outfit in game. How they do it idc, event, ishgard, msq. Just put it in.
    Content has been on a steady decline since the halfway point of Stormblood. I would not be surprised if we end up losing another dungeon or even seeing trials being cut.
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    the shoes look like they just painted over the base foot. the tabi still have the toe indents in them, lol
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    I think my biggest thing is.. I would 100% drop 18$ for a outfit. If it was account wide. I have 24$ mounts and they are account wide so ... why is a 18$ or 7$ emote..?

    My other thought.. Yes I know they have to have cash shops for the other versions of the game. But at this point I kind of want them to add a system to where you get 1-2 dollars worth in Crysta each month you are subbed or something. We no longer have veteran rewards and when they did there didn't seem to be a plan to add new ones.

    If they are going for money from the US servers here rewarding players even a dollar here and there for being subbed would keep most subbed just to build up the cash. *shrugs* just a thought from when I played other mmos and they rewarded you for being subbed with cash shop currency. Sure it took a few months or longer to buy anything but it still felt nice you didn't have to spend extra (even if you were staying subbed to a game you hardly played).
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