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    I agree, and thats what we have on critical hits I believe.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    "It's the way it is" doesn't make it a great system.
    Word.
    It being the way it is stops me from using it much beyond the diadem and beast tribes : (
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    This is the issue with rng. Even if an item is 1% chance, in the same way that some players will get it first try, statistically with the number of players MMO's tend to have someone is going to hit the extreme bad luck side of that too and spend a few thousand attempts.

    It's why many games nowadays have adopted pity timers once you've gone well above the average, because being that person who spends 20 times the average grind for zero reward isn't fun. It can kill a players interest in that game, which is bad business. For some reason MMO's have been slow to pick up on this.

    "It's the way it is" doesn't make it a great system.
    In FFXI I had to kill Mysticmaker Problix exactly 53 times to get the Moldavite earring, that supposedly had a 25% drop rate. (I actually camped it a few dozen more times than that and didn't get the monster claim, which was a thing that existed in XI that XIV thankfully fixed with Hunts and notorious monsters.)

    It became a running gag among all the friends who helped me camp it that we'd murder it with two TH4 thieves and it still wouldn't drop.
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    And no bites again this afternoon! 6 Kuers mooched in total. See you in 3 days!
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    Last edited by LegendWait; 06-15-2021 at 04:59 AM.

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    And no bites again tonight! 6 Kuers mooched, again, in total, 5 times kuer got away. See you in Saturday at noon, because no way I'm staying up until 2:30 am on a workday
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    Failed again today, 7 kuers fished, didn't miss one.

    Next one would be Wednesday at 3:21 am, no thanks, so the next one after that is Next Saturday at 11:11 am.

    I hate this insanely broken fish with a passion. The music of the ruby sea is the sound of failure that taunts me every time. I'm confident I'll manage to get all the 5.55 fishes before this one.

    Ridiculous. Pure unfair insanity. I'm confident I mooched well over 300 kuers at this point.
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    And failed again this morning, not a single Kuer bited! 3 missed Kuers in a row! The guy next to me had 4 kuers escaped him in a row!

    Fix this fish guys!

    See your at 10:51 for the next failure report (make me lie game, I dare you)
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    Failed again, 5 kuers and they would'nt even mooch themselves.

    Next window is tomorrow at 12:51 pm
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    So sorry for this! This seems to be an unfortunate occurrence to a small group of people. RNG is RNG—it can be downright brutal to some or a complete blessing to others. I agree that it's a flawed system. I would have thought there would be a pseudo-RNG system in place that tracks your Ku'er catches and makes it increasingly likely to catch Ruby Dragon but it really does seem to be a true RNG system which can be unfair. It's a lot like gambling except it costs your time and sanity.

    Some stats if you're interested:

    More than 50 Ku'ers = 36.41% of players
    More than 100 Ku'ers = 13.26% of players
    More than 200 Ku'ers = 1.75% of players
    More than 300 Ku'ers = 0.23% of players
    More than 400 Ku'ers = 0.03% of players
    More than 500 Ku'ers = 0.004% of players
    More than 600 Ku'ers = 0.001% of players

    Point is as gruesome as it seems, you should be fast approaching your catch granted it follows RNG
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    Last edited by Abelisk; 06-27-2021 at 07:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelisk View Post
    Some stats if you're interested:

    More than 50 Ku'ers = 36.41% of players
    More than 100 Ku'ers = 13.26% of players
    More than 200 Ku'ers = 1.75% of players
    More than 300 Ku'ers = 0.23% of players
    More than 400 Ku'ers = 0.03% of players
    More than 500 Ku'ers = 0.004% of players
    More than 600 Ku'ers = 0.001% of players
    Where did you get these stats and how were they compiled?
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