3 decent garduda weps

[Aruseth]

Pro tip: You can actually use cnj to dd. SE never told you cnj can only be used for healing in parties. Think outside the box! The more you know.

pro tip i can dd and build my enmity more too god are ppl mentally challenged? the whm is made to heal and buff just because u can cast a weak dd spell doesnt mean u shud i want a wep that enhances what whm is built for not its pathetic side job your all trying to shove down my throat.

[Lux_Rayna]

pro tip i can dd and build my enmity more too god are ppl mentally challenged? the whm is made to heal and buff just because u can cast a weak dd spell doesnt mean u shud i want a wep that enhances what whm is built for not its pathetic side job your all trying to shove down my throat.

First of all cnj =/= whm. I am talking about cnj, I have no idea why you are mentioning whm. The two are difference. WHM is cnj with a specialization in healing. Cnj can heal and it can dd. In fact, ive seen cnjs outparse DD's, no joke.

So let me reiterate, a CNJ (whm is not in this conversation) can also function as a dd. No dev ever said cnj was only a healing class. The problem is devs couldnt anticipate that ppl would be so stubborn and so "stupid" that they treat FFXIV classes like FFXI jobs. They are not the same, they can be used differently. For example:

You can have one cnj heal, and one cnj as dps/backup heal. Thats just one example. Again, ppl are too close-minded and don't think outside the little box they make for classes. There's a reason classes and jobs are different. SE is trying to beat this into ppl's tiny brains but they still can't comprehend it. We even have class-specific gear now but ppl are STILL befuddled. What do you mean cnj and whm is different?! Why are they putting dmg buffs on cnj weapons?!

Its called a clue. Lrn2read it. SE can't make it anymore obvious. They are telling you: Cnj. Can. DD. Please. Use. And. Consider. This.

God damn SE needs to make a guidebook with all the secret and amazing things classes can do because apparently ppl lack the brain matter to comprehend a class that can do more than one thing.

[Aruseth]

First of all cnj =/= whm. I am talking about cnj, I have no idea why you are mentioning whm. The two are difference. WHM is cnj with a specialization in healing. Cnj can heal and it can dd. In fact, ive seen cnjs outparse DD's, no joke.

So let me reiterate, a CNJ (whm is not in this conversation) can also function as a dd. No dev ever said cnj was only a healing class. The problem is devs couldnt anticipate that ppl would be so stubborn and so "stupid" that they treat FFXIV classes like FFXI jobs. They are not the same, they can be used differently. For example:

You can have one cnj heal, and one cnj as dps/backup heal. Thats just one example. Again, ppl are too close-minded and don't think outside the little box they make for classes. There's a reason classes and jobs are different. SE is trying to beat this into ppl's tiny brains but they still can't comprehend it. We even have class-specific gear now but ppl are STILL befuddled. What do you mean cnj and whm is different?! Why are they putting dmg buffs on cnj weapons?!

Its called a clue. Lrn2read it. SE can't make it anymore obvious. They are telling you: Cnj. Can. DD. Please. Use. And. Consider. This.

God damn SE needs to make a guidebook with all the secret and amazing things classes can do because apparently ppl lack the brain matter to comprehend a class that can do more than one thing.

cnj and whm are the exact same job with there abilities - a few. and if your going in as cnj to just dd then there is a difference there too. point is whm/cnj can do dd but when its all said and done we exist to heal with maybe some supportive dd when we can. im just saying i want a wep that plays to my strengths like every other job has.

[Lux_Rayna]

cnj and whm are the exact same job with there abilities - a few. and if your going in as cnj to just dd then there is a difference there too. point is whm/cnj can do dd but when its all said and done we exist to heal with maybe some supportive dd when we can. im just saying i want a wep that plays to my strengths like every other job has.

There are weapons that do though, and few outside of primal weapons that play towards the dd side of cnj. SE does their best to give ppl options. I'm sure there will be a primal in the future that focuses on healing, but I dont think Garuda is a good choice for it.

[Niqote]

*sigh* we already have a +wind pot one handed weapon... Why would they give us another one! It doesn't even look like a cnj whm weapon... /pouts about not having the staff for Whm

[XStruckX]

Garuda weapons are cool, I approve. I will most def be going 7/7 on those! The new crafted weapons = wtf? Class specific?

Party > get on bard struck...
Me > nah i do more dps on archer...
Party > get...on...bard....
Me > ok....

Seems like SE likes to build cars with square wheels...

[Chardrizard]

Pro Tip: You can nuke and heal, Difference is alot when u can deal extra 7-10k at raids especially if you are speedrunning.





come back again when u know your class.

[UmJammerSully]

Pro Tip: You can nuke and heal, Difference is alot when u can deal extra 7-10k at raids especially if you are speedrunning.

come back again when u know your class.

No-one is disputing that CNJ/WHM can deal damage! I throw nukes all the time. I enjoy the fact that they're not pure healers, but it boggles my mind that I have to keep pointing out that both CNJ and WHM primarly role is to heal and buff and having the nukes is a bonus, they are never going to out-damage a THM or BLM.

Having damage stats on these CNJ/WHM primal weapons isn't entirely useless, no, but every other class gets stats that directly benefit their primary role.

[Lux_Rayna]

No-one is disputing that CNJ/WHM can deal damage! I throw nukes all the time. I enjoy the fact that they're not pure healers, but it boggles my mind that I have to keep pointing out that both CNJ and WHM primarly role is to heal and buff and having the nukes is a bonus, they are never going to out-damage a THM or BLM.

Having damage stats on these CNJ/WHM primal weapons isn't entirely useless, no, but every other class gets stats that directly benefit their primary role.

You can still use the THM fire combo as well, for whatever good it does...probably doesn't do much but you *can* do it. Also for balance reasons SE can't give you a high dmg weapon AND a high healing pot weapon. That is the holy grail of all weapons. You would have everything you needed in one piece of gear which is entirely broken.

[Aruseth]

You can still use the THM fire combo as well, for whatever good it does...probably doesn't do much but you *can* do it. Also for balance reasons SE can't give you a high dmg weapon AND a high healing pot weapon. That is the holy grail of all weapons. You would have everything you needed in one piece of gear which is entirely broken.

nobody is implying a wep have dmging and healing on the same wep. i just want a good wep that specifically deals in whm/cnj strengths for healing that looks kick ***. an example wud be instead of wind dmg give me mp back or a conserve mp funtion and healing pot and enmity. 3 main things that play to a whm/cnj strengths as healers.