Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
Yep. In November we usually already have snow on ground and cold temperatures.
This was something brought up in the other thread. Where I grew up you could get snow on the ground as early in the year as late August, but the thing is that doesn't mean it's "technically" winter. Like I wouldn't see something was coming out "Winter of 2021" and think it would be released in August. Sure the seasons are funky based on what latitude you live in (and it doesn't help that the dates were based around the weather in Italy) but there's a generally accepted consensus as to what date each season starts with winter not technically starting until December 22 despite most areas of the world who get snow having already had it for weeks by that point.

So I get the perception from environment that you could look out your door and see there's snow and it's cold outside, must be winter. But when you look at global announcements, that same time of year in another part of the globe might still just be cool weather with no snow like you'd get in autumn. Heck even Square conceded this with the announcement that they realize that some people would percieve this as winter as opposed to fall because of local weather patterns.