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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    I (and the rest of my classes) was fed information that misled and didn't paint the whole picture, simple as that. So yes, I will blame my instructors for this one. Your attempted "well, the kids don't care about this stuff anyway, so why should I bother trying to teach them effectively" defense doesn't fly with me, sorry.

    If a "simplified" definition leads to misunderstandings like mine, maybe it shouldn't be used in an educational setting.
    You're correct in that the simplified version just leads people to come to wrong conclusions and shouldn't be taught. Prime numbers aren't really important to the math being taught at grade school level and can probably be a subject held off until middle or high school level math when the students can better grasp the concept of what they are, why they're important, and what constitutes a prime. But the problem here was that the OP, after people tried to educate on the misunderstanding was still arguing that their wrong opinions why 1 should be considered prime were just as valid as the facts proving that it is not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Why the hell are we talking about when seasons are in Sweden or Italy or whatever? Who cares?

    This is a Japanese game, made by a Japanese company. If they make a global announcement regarding a seasonal release, it should be automatically assumed that they're talking about seasons in Japan, unless otherwise stated.

    Do you think the Australians saw the "fall" announcement and then were saying "hurr durr, but fall is already almost over this year, durr"?
    Because this is the same person who started a thread complaining that "November isn't fall!" Which sparked the comparison of "1 is a prime number!" and failure to accept they're wrong when faced with facts and move on. And since I'm the one who brought up Italy, it's because the Romans were the ones who defined the dates of our current system, and they based that off weather patterns in Italy. Even knowing that seasonal and weather pattern doesn't reflect most of the world, it's still the generally accepted dates.
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  2. #82
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    You're correct in that the simplified version just leads people to come to wrong conclusions and shouldn't be taught. Prime numbers aren't really important to the math being taught at grade school level and can probably be a subject held off until middle or high school level math when the students can better grasp the concept of what they are, why they're important, and what constitutes a prime. But the problem here was that the OP, after people tried to educate on the misunderstanding was still arguing that their wrong opinions why 1 should be considered prime were just as valid as the facts proving that it is not.
    Yeah, I've already reached the conclusion that the OP is either a troll or deliberately obtuse a while ago.

    At this point I'm just participating in the general discourse and referring back to my own experiences about what I was taught about prime numbers (and how I think it could be the reason why some people might legitimately think 1 is a prime until told otherwise)

    Because this is the same person who started a thread complaining that "November isn't fall!" Which sparked the comparison of "1 is a prime number!" and failure to accept they're wrong when faced with facts and move on.
    Oh damn, it was the same person? I didn't even realize that.

    I only used that as an example because I remember seeing it here recently and it built up a rather infamous reputation. But now the reason why that topic continued to be discussed here is clearer...
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Many people would agree the US education system sucks, don't act like it's immune to criticism
    What is this

    I just told you that everyone is a victim of a bad educational system and to that, you reply with "Many people would agree the US education system sucks, don't act like it's immune to criticism". ​You just see me as a person you must argue with, don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Don't tell me what I can't do.
    I never did though. It is all in your head.

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    I'm not sure what point there is to your line of thinking, though. Just because "everyone" has been a "victim" of something (citation needed, btw), there's suddenly "no point" in bringing up its flaws?
    The biggest flaw of the educational system is that it still exists. It conditions people to go with the flow and have the information served to them even if they are unwilling to receive it. So you have a group of tired adults who are held responsible for educating an ungrateful, lazy and annoying group of kids. Usually, they stay the same after leaving school and it is always apparent. They need to pay me millions per month to put myself through this type of torture and utter anguish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    it makes me feel better to know that something I was wrong about wasn't my own fault.
    https://www.powerofpositivity.com/ta...aviors-reveal/
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    Last edited by Roeshel; 06-10-2021 at 04:34 PM.

  4. #84
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    Why are we talking about winter and fall, when we are clearly in spring right now.
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    Actually it's summer (meteorological), but i'm not gonna start cause you or someone else gonna start saying it's not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Actually it's summer (meteorological), but i'm not gonna start cause you or someone else gonna start saying it's not
    Astronomically it's not. "Meteorological" summer only exists for the convenience of meteorologists. The distinction is important, because the astronomical event of the Earth being tilted further or closer to the sun is what actually determines the seasons. Meteorologists just wanna dice up the calendar neatly.
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    That's why I said meteorological and not astronomically. This is such a hilarious point people get upset about lmao.
    Ok yeah it's not astronomically but having 28c+ 24/7 I'd label more summer than spring (for Sweden).
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    ​You just see me as a person you must argue with, don't you?
    Nah, because I'm just going to ignore you now. Not interested in your "victim" blaming drivel or your angsting about "annoying" kids, and I probably won't be interested in anything else you have to say either. Byeeee


    Why are we talking about winter and fall, when we are clearly in spring right now.
    It sure beats talking about summer. I'm already melting where I am
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Nah, because I'm just going to ignore you now. Not interested in your "victim" blaming drivel or your angsting about "annoying" kids, and I probably won't be interested in anything else you have to say either. Byeeee
    With this reply, you want to make me think that my words are being disregarded by you because you know they aren't.

    Next time don't say it, just do it.
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    I love ya’all for this gem thread lol.
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