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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Simply adding the clause "a prime number cannot be 1 / must also be greater than 1" would not have been confusing, and would have resolved the entire issue.

    The stuff that is confusing to me is stuff like the "fundamental theorem of arithmetic", which is apparently something advanced enough such that I never heard about it in grade school and only heard about in this thread. I don't know why this "rule" exists, nor do I care. Regardless, since it never came up when I learned about prime numbers, it doesn't do much to combat the (apparently erroneous) idea that 1 might be a prime number.

    Again, there wasn't anything I "didn't get". To me back then, 1 being a prime number was just something that made sense, so there was no question to ask.

    You can't ask a question you never had in the first place.

    Don't tell me what I can't do.

    Many people would agree the US education system sucks, anyway. Don't act like it's immune to criticism.
    It does suck so no point acting like you are a victim when the reality is everyone is a product of their own inability or ability either by choice or otheriwise.

    In short those that care about their education are often proactive and inquisitive by nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Many people would agree the US education system sucks, don't act like it's immune to criticism
    What is this

    I just told you that everyone is a victim of a bad educational system and to that, you reply with "Many people would agree the US education system sucks, don't act like it's immune to criticism". ​You just see me as a person you must argue with, don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Don't tell me what I can't do.
    I never did though. It is all in your head.

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    I'm not sure what point there is to your line of thinking, though. Just because "everyone" has been a "victim" of something (citation needed, btw), there's suddenly "no point" in bringing up its flaws?
    The biggest flaw of the educational system is that it still exists. It conditions people to go with the flow and have the information served to them even if they are unwilling to receive it. So you have a group of tired adults who are held responsible for educating an ungrateful, lazy and annoying group of kids. Usually, they stay the same after leaving school and it is always apparent. They need to pay me millions per month to put myself through this type of torture and utter anguish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    it makes me feel better to know that something I was wrong about wasn't my own fault.
    https://www.powerofpositivity.com/ta...aviors-reveal/
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    Why are we talking about winter and fall, when we are clearly in spring right now.
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    It does suck so no point acting like you are a victim when the reality is everyone is a product of their own inability either by choice or otheriwise.
    There is a point though; it makes me feel better to know that something I was wrong about wasn't my own fault.

    I'm not sure what point there is to your line of thinking, though. Just because "everyone" has been a "victim" of something (citation needed, btw), there's suddenly "no point" in bringing up its flaws?

    In short those that care about their education are often proactive and inquisitive by nature.
    Again (...), it's hard to be "inquisitive" over a matter that inspired no questions. Are you telling me that if something makes perfect sense to you, you would still question it? I'm quite skeptical, if so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    There is a point though; it makes me feel better to know that something I was wrong about wasn't my own fault.

    I'm not sure what point there is to your line of thinking, though. Just because "everyone" has been a "victim" of something (citation needed, btw), there's suddenly "no point" in bringing up its flaws?
    You said many would feel the US school system sucks and I am inclined to agree. It is flawed and it does have room to improve but the point is if people know something sucks generally complaining or acting like a victim is senseless behavior to me. It does not solve anything meaningful expect to make one feel better about themselves. Though the reality is if people know something sucks and are forced to partake in it they should make efforts to improve their situation in that moment not complain about it after the fact. Just screams playing the victim.

    Also I said everyone is a product of their own ability to inability when it comes to education by choice or otherwise. The system is flawed but as an individual that is largely irrelevant we have to make due with what we got.

    I say this as person who went to one of worst schools in NY. Got to make due.
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    OP, regardless of whether or not you think 1 should be a prime number or not, this isn't a bug.
    This has been brought to the devs before and they said the content is working as intended and they've been clear they aren't changing it.

    For better or worse the raid will remain the way it is.
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    Most mathematicians say (nowdays) that a primenumber is a number that can be only divided by two numbers that is 1 and itself. 1 can be only divided by 1 which leads to the fact that most mathematicians don't consider 1 as a prime anymore. Which is a good idea since the meaning of a prime is that it can only be divided by two numbers, 1 would be a irregularity in that matter which would undermine the meaning of prime numbers which is being only dividable through two numbers. So yes and no, many mathematicians considered 1 as a prime number. Most mathematicians nowdays consider 1 not as a prime number. And that is that.

    To make it more clear again. 1 would be only dividable through 1. All other primes are dividable through two numbers which is one and itself. Cause of that definition 1 can't be a true prime since it's just dividable through a single number that is 1. It makes no sense to categorize numbers and then allow a irregular into it. That's why the view changed and 1 isn't considered as a primenumber anymore and that is also now shown in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Most mathematicians say (nowdays) that a primenumber is a number that can be only divided by two numbers that is 1 and itself. 1 can be only divided by 1 which leads to the fact that most mathematicians don't consider 1 as a prime anymore. Which is a good idea since the meaning of a prime is that it can only be divided by two numbers, 1 would be a irregularity in that matter which would undermine the meaning of prime numbers which is being only dividable through two numbers. So yes and no, many mathematicians considered 1 as a prime number. Most mathematicians nowdays consider 1 not as a prime number. And that is that.

    To make it more clear again. 1 would be only dividable through 1. All other primes are dividable through two numbers which is one and itself. Cause of that definition 1 can't be a true prime since it's just dividable through a single number that is 1. It makes no sense to categorize numbers and then allow a irregular into it. That's why the view changed and 1 isn't considered as a primenumber anymore and that is also now shown in the game.
    Did all of you snooze through math class? 1 can only be divided by 1 and itself. The "itself" is 1. Because 1 is 1. Oh my god even a kindergartener knows this.

    Literally no one has shown me one single number that can divide 1 that isn't 1 or 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venandi View Post
    Did all of you snooze through math class? 1 can only be divided by 1 and itself. The "itself" is 1. Because 1 is 1. Oh my god even a kindergartener knows this.

    Literally no one has shown me one single number that can divide 1 that isn't 1 or 1.
    Gonna copy/paste the same thing I wrote on your other thread because I’m seeing a pattern.

    As with most things in life, it is your own responsibility to be educate yourself and do due diligence.
    It is not our(this forum’s) job to explain to you how primes work. Despite having done so anyway, it is also not our responsibility to somehow have to defend or convince you of how the math rules work.

    Let’s review:
    1. Regardless of semantics and whether you understand it or not, 1 is not a prime number.
    2. The game even puts a note with listed primes that very specifically does not include 1.
    3. The definition of a prime is any number that can only be divided by two separate numbers: itself and 1.
    4. Itself and 1 are not two separate numbers. (in 1's case)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Gonna copy/paste the same thing I wrote on your other thread because I’m seeing a pattern.



    It is not our(this forum’s) job to explain to you how primes work. Despite having done so anyway, it is also not our responsibility to somehow have to defend or convince you of how the math rules work.

    Let’s review:
    1. Regardless of semantics and whether you understand it or not, 1 is not a prime number.
    2. The game even puts a note with listed primes that very specifically does not include 1.
    3. The definition of a prime is any number that can only be divided by two separate numbers: itself and 1.
    4. Itself and 1 are not two separate numbers.
    Wrong. If you paid attention in Algebra, a prime number cannot be divided by itself or 1. Literally no math teacher will tell you they have to be separate.
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