Venting about "A new path of resistance", fix this step

[FoxyAreku]

In case you have forgotten, let me remind you that you're playing a MMORPG, and the Grinding Game is the main aspect of one, so better get used to this. Also, FFXIV's grinding is pretty tame compared to other MMOs out there.

This is a poor excuse.

I play WoW as well and i haven't had to do anything resembling grinding in that game in years.
Of course, this depends on your definition of grinding, but there is strictly nothing there so egregious as 'run this one instance 15 times'. That's just poor design.

[Vahlnir]

This is a poor excuse.I play WoW as well and i haven't had to do anything resembling grinding in that game in years.

You must not have played much of Shadowlands then. Or at least 2-3 expansions before that. Grinding conduits, for example, requires running certain instances a LOT, and that is for the small chance of getting what you want. That is just one example among many that players have to grind for things and have had to all along.

[Jettinson]

Imo is my least favorite step due to how much stuff you spend in DR in terms of fragments. If i want other good Lost Actions like Damage Banners\Chainspells etc i won't get them in DR, either at Market Board or Southern Front\Zadnor which means i have to spend additional time to prepare for a single piece of relic in DR.

And worst part is you are not guaranteed to get the stuff you want from the fragments, not even from DR. I want the good pure tank essece? Nope, here's 6 Lost Aethershield in a row, go back grinding clusters.
Want Chainspell? Nah, enjoy some Lost Assassinate, totally worth for DR.

I may loathe Eureka's logos but being able to combine and get the thing you want certainly made the thing more enjoyable.

Other than that, i try run DR daily or 3 times a week just to not feel sick lol, I get more joy nuking the mini bosses rather than the bosses themselfes

[Gula]

Just because other games may have it worse doesn't mean we can't ask for improvements here.

You're spoiled.

[Darnath]

Imo is my least favorite step due to how much stuff you spend in DR in terms of fragments. If i want other good Lost Actions like Damage Banners\Chainspells etc i won't get them in DR, either at Market Board or Southern Front\Zadnor which means i have to spend additional time to prepare for a single piece of relic in DR.

And worst part is you are not guaranteed to get the stuff you want from the fragments, not even from DR. I want the good pure tank essece? Nope, here's 6 Lost Aethershield in a row, go back grinding clusters.
Want Chainspell? Nah, enjoy some Lost Assassinate, totally worth for DR.

I may loathe Eureka's logos but being able to combine and get the thing you want certainly made the thing more enjoyable.

Other than that, i try run DR daily or 3 times a week just to not feel sick lol, I get more joy nuking the mini bosses rather than the bosses themselfes

That's another big issue with these essences.
Let's say spend 10k or even more gil on buying essences because you don't want to be deadweight in DR or the new place, or spend a large chunk of time farming them even the plants in front of the Bozja Southern Front first camp.
Hurray, you just got a half dozen or more 'useless' essences because RNG went against you and the token kept going into the wrong role (aka getting lots of healer/tank essences when you're DPS).
I know there's already a lot of different tokens already, but having some tokens have 8 potential turnouts.. well.. really sucks.

[Feronar]

Yes, please nerf this step. 15 DR clears PER WEAPON (And the low drop rate in PotD) is completely idiotic. At least with earlier relics with big long steps like this you had more variety in what activities to do.

[Vahlnir]

Yes, please nerf this step. 15 DR clears PER WEAPON (And the low drop rate in PotD) is completely idiotic. At least with earlier relics with big long steps like this you had more variety in what activities to do.

A big help would be to add a guaranteed drop at floor 50 and/or 100 of POTD, that way players are rewarded for similar time investments. The average DR run in my experience is usually around 45 minutes or so, sometimes more or less.

[Shurrikhan]

In case you have forgotten, let me remind you that you're playing a MMORPG, and the Grinding Game is the main aspect of one, so better get used to this. Also, FFXIV's grinding is pretty tame compared to other MMOs out there.

Sounds a lot like the old "In case you have forgotten, games aren't supposed to be primarily intrinsically fun. They're a business, and their construction is therefore necessarily about minimizing the otherwise intensive time necessary to make things which would be intrinsically enjoyable by gating them behind minimally time-intensive means of stretching their play-time."

Consider, why was this the first step at which the OP "felt like [her] time as a player was not respected"? There's obviously some difference between this grind and those previous, some critical threshold along the curve of "grindiness" that makes it incongruous or particularly unsatisfying. Calling that out isn't asking for the whole genre to suddenly be upturned. It's asking that the content match or improve from what standards have already been set in this game.

You must not have played much of Shadowlands then. Or at least 2-3 expansions before that. Grinding conduits, for example, requires running certain instances a LOT, and that is for the small chance of getting what you want. That is just one example among many that players have to grind for things and have had to all along.

They're guaranteed drops, mate, unless you complete the source content at the absolute minimum (e.g., leveling) difficulty. A better example would be legendaries, but those are still a 20%+ chance from dungeons and are guaranteed from other sources, rather than requiring some 15+ completions. The only grind people are at all encouraged to go through is BiS gear from +15 Mythic runs, and that's devalued by the weekly chest rewards they compete with (and which out-ilvl the unlimited drops) such that they're rarely grinded for unless they'd be useful transiently as well (e.g., when the trinket is already plenty valueable at a lower ilvl or you need a weapon upgrade regardless).

[StriderShinryu]

I'm dragging my feet on starting the step because I do think they will nerf it come 5.57 or 5.58. It really could use a fix.

[Tracewood]

In case you have forgotten, let me remind you that you're playing a MMORPG, and the Grinding Game is the main aspect of one, so better get used to this. Also, FFXIV's grinding is pretty tame compared to other MMOs out there.

If it weren't for my experiences with XI, Destiny, and Fallout 76 I'd probably disagree. Not only are those games super grindy, the rely on layers upon layers of RNG and heavy weekly lockouts. Doing Reginae 15 times is a bit much, but as long as people bring essences the raid can be done much faster.