Venting about "A new path of resistance", fix this step

[Thorime]

This post is more of me venting my frustration with this part of the relic, "A New path of resistance", this part is single-handedly making me annoyed and bored with the game to a point of me considering dropping making more relics, doing 15 DR with random is literally rolling dice to see if you will get at least a couple of players with essences or players that aren't afk at all, which is normally never the case, making something that could very well take 20 minutes to finish, take well over 45+ minutes, had a run that took almost a full hour.
Palace of the Dead isn't much better either, I tried a couple of run in there, 51-190 and 51-100, after around 6 hours or so, only got 4 artifacts after all of that, I normally enjoy running PotD but knowing that I will have to WASTE my time with a RNG drop until I got to 150 just sours the whole experience and makes me want to not do that kind of content.
Either NERF the amount needed to progress to like 5 or 10 or increase the amount you get from a single DR run from 1 to 3 and in PotD make the drop-rate from floors 51-100 be 50% and 101-200 be 100%, that's how I would fix it.
This isn't a Free-to-Play game, this is the first time since I started playing this game that I felt that my time as a player was not respected, I have faith that SE will fix this soon. Thank you.

[Anhra]

In case you have forgotten, let me remind you that you're playing a MMORPG, and the Grinding Game is the main aspect of one, so better get used to this. Also, FFXIV's grinding is pretty tame compared to other MMOs out there.

[ItMe]

Also, FFXIV's grinding is pretty tame compared to other MMOs out there.

Just because other games may have it worse doesn't mean we can't ask for improvements here.

[Gula]

Just because other games may have it worse doesn't mean we can't ask for improvements here.

You're spoiled.

[FoxyAreku]

In case you have forgotten, let me remind you that you're playing a MMORPG, and the Grinding Game is the main aspect of one, so better get used to this. Also, FFXIV's grinding is pretty tame compared to other MMOs out there.

This is a poor excuse.

I play WoW as well and i haven't had to do anything resembling grinding in that game in years.
Of course, this depends on your definition of grinding, but there is strictly nothing there so egregious as 'run this one instance 15 times'. That's just poor design.

[Vahlnir]

This is a poor excuse.I play WoW as well and i haven't had to do anything resembling grinding in that game in years.

You must not have played much of Shadowlands then. Or at least 2-3 expansions before that. Grinding conduits, for example, requires running certain instances a LOT, and that is for the small chance of getting what you want. That is just one example among many that players have to grind for things and have had to all along.

[Shurrikhan]

In case you have forgotten, let me remind you that you're playing a MMORPG, and the Grinding Game is the main aspect of one, so better get used to this. Also, FFXIV's grinding is pretty tame compared to other MMOs out there.

Sounds a lot like the old "In case you have forgotten, games aren't supposed to be primarily intrinsically fun. They're a business, and their construction is therefore necessarily about minimizing the otherwise intensive time necessary to make things which would be intrinsically enjoyable by gating them behind minimally time-intensive means of stretching their play-time."

Consider, why was this the first step at which the OP "felt like [her] time as a player was not respected"? There's obviously some difference between this grind and those previous, some critical threshold along the curve of "grindiness" that makes it incongruous or particularly unsatisfying. Calling that out isn't asking for the whole genre to suddenly be upturned. It's asking that the content match or improve from what standards have already been set in this game.

You must not have played much of Shadowlands then. Or at least 2-3 expansions before that. Grinding conduits, for example, requires running certain instances a LOT, and that is for the small chance of getting what you want. That is just one example among many that players have to grind for things and have had to all along.

They're guaranteed drops, mate, unless you complete the source content at the absolute minimum (e.g., leveling) difficulty. A better example would be legendaries, but those are still a 20%+ chance from dungeons and are guaranteed from other sources, rather than requiring some 15+ completions. The only grind people are at all encouraged to go through is BiS gear from +15 Mythic runs, and that's devalued by the weekly chest rewards they compete with (and which out-ilvl the unlimited drops) such that they're rarely grinded for unless they'd be useful transiently as well (e.g., when the trinket is already plenty valueable at a lower ilvl or you need a weapon upgrade regardless).

[Tracewood]

In case you have forgotten, let me remind you that you're playing a MMORPG, and the Grinding Game is the main aspect of one, so better get used to this. Also, FFXIV's grinding is pretty tame compared to other MMOs out there.

If it weren't for my experiences with XI, Destiny, and Fallout 76 I'd probably disagree. Not only are those games super grindy, the rely on layers upon layers of RNG and heavy weekly lockouts. Doing Reginae 15 times is a bit much, but as long as people bring essences the raid can be done much faster.

[Adeacia]

I was planning on getting more than one relic completed, until I reached this step. After doing this I decided to not do another relic.

Doing fates I'm ok with. Doing bozja I'm OK with and actually like. Doing the same raid 15 times I am not OK with.

[Kuroka]

I was planning on getting more than one relic completed, until I reached this step. After doing this I decided to not do another relic.

Doing fates I'm ok with. Doing bozja I'm OK with and actually like. Doing the same raid 15 times I am not OK with.

Doing ANYTHING 10-20 times is a no go for me so ive havent even reached that stage, we got so much content, but no... do X 15x... *sight*

Well one day ill have enough rouletts putting me there to continue... until then its the first relic ive never finished.