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    What If? An SCH Design

    What if faerie heals effectively go away in 6.0?

    This question is what led to this post, which would have heavy implications for SCH.
    • All healing would have to come from the SCH.
    • Without faerie healing, SCH's healing kit might need reevaluated for lower levels.
    • The Job Gauge would need a complete redesign.

    Despite the question which is the premise of this post, faeries are an integral part of the SCH lore. They can't simply go away completely. As such, I came up with a design that would both answer the 'what if' question while also retaining the presence of faeries and Seraph in the SCH toolkit.

    FULL DETAILS: SCH Redesign Document

    The gameplay loop for healing below will list the major points. If you want to see boring tables, go check the Google Doc. Note that I'm not going to touch on DPS abilities very much; that's a completely separate issue outside the scope of this post.

    Gameplay Loop (Healing)
    • Use Physick, Adloquium, Succor, and Aetherflow-based abilities to generate Faerie Gauge.
    • Summon a Faerie or Seraph. Eos provides increased cure potency; Selene provides increased barrier potency; Seraph provides both.
    • While a faerie or Seraph is summoned, basic ("scholar") spells transform into faerie or angel spells respectively. Physick, Adloquium, and Succor are what transform.
    • Transformed spells are better heals/barriers; faerie spells consume Faerie Gauge; angel spells are free.
    • When the Faerie Gauge reaches 0, faerie disappears and abilities revert to normal. (Seraph is timed and disappears after time expires.)

    You'll notice I mention summoning faeries and Seraph; nothing has changed there. However, their implementation in the game is what would. Cosmetically, they'd be buffs. While summoned, you have a faerie/Seraph that hangs about near your PC model, but it functionally gives you increased HP restoration and/or barrier strength. Your casting animations would also change so as to make it appear that the faerie/Seraph is what is casting the spell. It's all smoke and mirrors, as everything would source from the Scholar, even abilities such as Whispering Dawn. This would also assist with the occasional issue where you push a button for a pet ability and nothing happens.


    Actions & Traits
    This is a revamp of SCH actions and when they learn them that I came up with. Some traits, such as Broil Mastery, are omitted since they're fairly obvious when they're acquired.

    1 - Broil
    2 - Physick
    4 - Bio
    8 - [Cauterize]
    10 - Adloquium
    12 - Resurrection
    18 - Succor
    22 - Broil II
    26 - Bio II
    28 - Physick II, [Improved Adloquium]
    30 - Summon Eos, Summon Selene
    32 - Whisper -> Whispering Dawn, Whispering Dusk
    34 - [Cauterize II]
    35 - Emergency Tactics
    40 - Luminance -> Fey Illumination, Fey Occlusion
    45 - Aetherflow, Energy Drain, Lustrate
    46 - Art of War
    50 - Sacred Soil

    52 - Indomitability
    54 - Broil III
    56 - Deployment Tactics
    58 - Bio III, [Cauterize III]
    60 - Dissipation

    62 - Excogitation
    64 - Broil IV
    66 - Chain Strategem
    70 - Fey Union

    72 - Broil V, Biolysis
    74 - Recitation
    76 - Fey Blessing
    78 - [Enhanced Sacred Soil]
    80 - Summon Seraph, Seraphic Veil, Consolation

    To quickly explain some of what's on here:
    • Ruin becomes Broil. Broil III is the Broil I that we know today, and so on.
    • Bio becomes SCH's exclusive DoT. (ACN/SMN would have pet attacks.)
    • Cauterize is a dot that is placed by Broil if it's not already present.
    • Adloquium starts weaker and improves at 28 to the values we know today.
    • Seraphic Veil and Consolation are OGCD heals usable while Seraph is summoned. I envision them as replacing Lustrate and Indomitability while Seraph is out.

    To conclude, I think it's possible to do away with faerie healing while retaining them. I'm not saying this is what should happen, but the possibility does exist that it could happen in 6.0. With Sage coming to compete as another barrier healer, and presumably is not a pet job, there exists the possibility that SCH will get reworked to be more like the other healers to make it easier to balance its healing.

    I look forward to seeing thoughts.
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    Last edited by dvoraen; 06-07-2021 at 11:07 PM.

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    Shortly said, i'd be aganist this idea.

    From what i can tell from reading quickly trough the document, it is just the SCH we already know with way too high potencies, easier built-up for Fairy Gauge and some random sideeffect for Broilccoli.

    Personally, id prefer it if SCH would lose all of its raw healing abilities except for Physick (this includes the removal of the raw healing you recieve from applying Shield effects) and have Shield Potency buffed a little.

    In exchange for that tradeoff, Eos could still apply raw Healing abilities at increased potencies, while Selene gets a Dps kit that casts long charged, but somewhat powerful Black magic, but in order to keep this kind of thing fair, it would require Pets to be killable again (as well as having proper Defense Values, unlike they had in Stormblood).

    Also, SCH should have Broilccoli removed and have more DoTs, but then again, that would require for almost all other Jobs to lose theirs, which is a small prize to pay (since it gives room to give those Jobs better and more fitting abilities or spells).
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvoraen View Post
    Gameplay Loop (Healing)
    • Use Physick, Adloquium, Succor, and Aetherflow-based abilities to generate Faerie Gauge.
    • Summon a Faerie or Seraph. Eos provides increased cure potency; Selene provides increased barrier potency; Seraph provides both.
    • While a faerie or Seraph is summoned, basic ("scholar") spells transform into faerie or angel spells respectively. Physick, Adloquium, and Succor are what transform.
    • Transformed spells are better heals/barriers; faerie spells consume Faerie Gauge; angel spells are free.
    • When the Faerie Gauge reaches 0, faerie disappears and abilities revert to normal. (Seraph is timed and disappears after time expires.)
    So, wait... what do our fairies do?
    One gets summoned, idles for a bit, and leaves?
    Why even have fairies at that point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    So, wait... what do our fairies do?
    One gets summoned, idles for a bit, and leaves?
    Why even have fairies at that point?
    Just increases the potency of our heals baseline when out, and with Dissipation specifically, by replacing our buttons with fairy based buttons. He assumes Adlo/Succor gain independent Shield potency ala Divine Benison to pull this off. Think Demi-Phoenix Spells but for Healing only. We sustain the regular use via the Fey Gauge and can resummon both whenever we see fit, I guess. Seraph I assume is still a cooldown or it’s just the best/worst one depending on reading.

    I dislike this because it doesn’t tune up the fairy at all (Embrace is no longer free or tied to the fairy) we just use Fey Union and Aetherflow all the time and otherwise are Noct AST.
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    I'm against it. I want to see more power fairy automation with a great focus on dps rotations. I've come to hate the 'pure healer' garbage developers forced into the game with 5.0.
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