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  1. #111
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    Whether Ryne/Gaia are a couple or not, I dunno, but you should note there is an entire genre in Japan called Shojo-Ai (which means "girls' love") and while it has a lot of romantic vibes/tension, there is actually no romance in it whatsoever (which would be "yuri"). Shojo-Ai is basically a girl's version of a "bromance".

    the genre is also purposefully vague as to whether they are super-besties or secretly in love.

    So sure, it is possible they are madly in love, but currently this is not at all unusual in Japanese manga/anime/TV drama culture.

    Par for the course, really.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 08-12-2021 at 01:39 AM.

  2. #112
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    Personally, as a gay guy, I'm not a fan of reading into relationships as canon unless they are explicitly mentioned as such. Anything less can simply be read into as half hearted pandering - and in addition, I'd rather see gay relationships established between adult characters rather than underage characters. I'm not inclined to obsess over the idea of a pair of teenage girls potentially getting together.

    I don't see Ryne and Gaia as a couple, at any rate. They only knew each other for a very short period of time and it's already a stretch that they'd be such good friends - let alone in a relationship.

    I think it would have been great to see each of them put to the sword so that Lohgrif and Mitron could be together instead. A pair of quasi-immortal beings who saw their entire world crumble around them but pushed in defiance to try and get back together is far more engaging to me than a pair of bratty teenagers whose deepest memory is splitting a biscuit in two.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 08-12-2021 at 01:53 AM.

  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    male au ras, sometimes catboys, who have a harem of their discord kittens surrounding them most of the time because they shower them with attention and gifts
    The FF equivalent of simps then? Another thing l learned today. Thank you : )

    @Topic: I never noticed a reference to the LGBT comm and the Eden questline. But I dont really mind if someone is straight, gay, bi or lalasexual. I dont see a big deal here.

    If some people see Eden as a big win to the LGBT comm, let them have it. I see the completion of the Eden questline as the end of the glorious lightwardens reign. May your divine light never been forgotten.
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    Last edited by Caitlyn; 08-12-2021 at 02:13 AM.
    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
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    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
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    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post

    male au ras, sometimes catboys, who have a harem of their discord kittens surrounding them most of the time because they shower them with attention and gifts
    Don’t forget the femroes…
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ativan View Post
    While I still wish to see more prominent queer characters in the main story, hopefully a Scion, I have just finished the Eden raid and I felt heard and appreciated as an LGBT individual.



    The Eden raid, as a parallel to FF8's story, is about Ryne and Gaia's love story. Much like Rinoa, Gaia had to choose between her past love and her new love. The rainbow Pride crystal makes it pretty obvious that Square Enix is supporting LGBT rights with this story. There is so much parallel between Squall/Rinoa and Ryne/Gaia that this is all but confirmed.

    I just wanted to say thank you to the developers for creating a queer story. I wished it was a bit more explicit (maybe Gaia can confess her love for Ryne?). As of now this story verges on queerbaiting but it is a good first step. The rainbow Pride crystal makes it clear where Square Enix stands on this issue. Unfortunately I can see issues with the Chinese market where LGBT rights are non-existent and they are sent to jail. So I know why Square Enix can't make it explicit. But hopefully Square Enix can create additional cutscenes in the countries where LGBT folks have rights to explicitly support us. I believe this would be a good compromise. Anyways, it feels good to be represented and heard. Thank you, Square Enix.
    Looking for things that aren't there, perhaps?
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  6. #116
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    And the cycle begins anew...
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    The FF equivalent of simps then? Another thing l learned today. Thank you : )
    naw, simps/orbiters are usually harmless, but groomers are usually bad people exploiting the people following them, emotionally, financially or even sexually by manipulating them
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  8. #118
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    They literally explain in the same very patch why the aether is that color. It’s why we see rainbow lava in Matoya’s Relict as well. Are y’all gonna say Matoya and her Froggos are gay/lesbian next?
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    They literally explain in the same very patch why the aether is that color. It’s why we see rainbow lava in Matoya’s Relict as well. Are y’all gonna say Matoya and her Froggos are gay/lesbian next?
    Nice try, Alex Jones.
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  10. #120
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    Nice try, Alex Jones.
    Gurl idek who dat is.

    Anywhooo…i do find it funny that people are reaching trying to push the idea that Ryne and Gaia are some lgbt couple,as if it would be some huge revelation….even though we already have gay and bi people canon in the game…
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