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    Triple Triad Idea

    With the current system that is place for Triple Triad and getting the cards I feel like it puts a up a barrier for certain types of players. While I personally have no issue with the current system I can see how some might have problems with it.

    Triple Triad I think would be best described as "Casual" Content. With the introduction of the new achievement that comes with the mount a lot more people have gained interest in it and are working toward getting the mount. A lot of people have put hours of work into it only to find out that it is required that they do Shadowbringers Extreme Trials and then stopped because they feel like that is out of their reach. I think it would be nice if there was some alternative method for obtaining these cards.

    This might not be the best method, but the idea I came up with was an MGP sink. Something along the lines of another Triple Triad Card (like the Gold, Silver, Dream, etc) that was a guaranteed card that you do not currently possess that can not be obtained through MGP. Have it cost like 500,000MGP or something. Then at least the people who are not interested in Extreme Trials can enjoy Triple Triad to its fullest. It would still be a huge time investment as there are 7 Triple Triad Cards that come from Shadowbringers Extreme Trials. Assuming you had already gathered every single other card in the game that would still cost you 3,500,000MGP to get those cards.

    Anyway that is my random idea. Feel free to say you hate it I don't really care.
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    Completely agree. Every Triple Triad card should be obtainable by some form of TT/MGP based method. Even if they didn’t do your idea and instead put them in random booster packs, or even if they give them a crazy 1% drop rate on some NPC. The whole point of a card game is to play cards. I’m not saying they need to remove the current ways of obtaining the cards, just add them to an NPC too.

    Honestly the extreme fights aren’t even the most egregious example because they will be unsynced eventually. Having to unlock all three forms of Eureka (dead irrelevant content) and then rely on drop rates from sacks and FATEs for cards is ridiculous. Good luck getting those if you missed them in Stomblood.
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    Yes, extreme fights will become easier, what has made it a bit annoying for me is holding some of them behind Hildibrand quest completion, collectable ranks, beast tribe ranks, blue mage quests, tournaments where getting into the top #20 is unlikely unless you have the patience to wait hours to fight players.

    It's not that big of a problem but it has effectively prevented me getting certain cards for a long time until I got round to certain grinds. The one good thing about the mount is it immediately rewards doing a wide variety of content in the game that some people were not previously interested in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Yes, extreme fights will become easier, what has made it a bit annoying for me is holding some of them behind Hildibrand quest completion, collectable ranks, beast tribe ranks, blue mage quests, tournaments where getting into the top #20 is unlikely unless you have the patience to wait hours to fight players.

    It's not that big of a problem but it has effectively prevented me getting certain cards for a long time until I got round to certain grinds. The one good thing about the mount is it immediately rewards doing a wide variety of content in the game that some people were not previously interested in.
    They also drop from normal trials. Memoria Misera is the only one that doesn't because it doesn't have a normal story version. Tournament cards do not count for this mount, you only need the first 312 cards. The character cards from the special tab are not needed (you still need the open tournament Phoenix card though, but that's actually easy).
    The only ones I find tedious and unfair are the Eureka related cards, just because it takes forever to unlock zones on abandoned content. You can skip some of the fate card grind in there because as you unlock zones, you also unlock the NPC to battle for those cards, which you have to do anyway to get Ejika Tsunjika's card, which is easier and faster than chasing the fates, but still takes a while of boring dead content to reach Hydatos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CheeseCurd View Post
    It would still be a huge time investment as there are 7 Triple Triad Cards that come from Shadowbringers Extreme Trials.
    There are only two. Only Varis and G-Warrior require extremes (though G-Warrior does require three different fights.) All the rest can drop in normal mode.

    That said, I absolutely agree. It's insane that some cards are locked behind some crazy amount of battle content. Be it EX trials, or Hydatos access, or Dalriada completion... that is the exact opposite of casual card playing. Cards shouldn't be locked behind combat in the first place, and especially not current tier extremes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPresident View Post
    Completely agree. Every Triple Triad card should be obtainable by some form of TT/MGP based method. Even if they didn’t do your idea and instead put them in random booster packs, or even if they give them a crazy 1% drop rate on some NPC. The whole point of a card game is to play cards. I’m not saying they need to remove the current ways of obtaining the cards, just add them to an NPC too.

    Honestly the extreme fights aren’t even the most egregious example because they will be unsynced eventually. Having to unlock all three forms of Eureka (dead irrelevant content) and then rely on drop rates from sacks and FATEs for cards is ridiculous. Good luck getting those if you missed them in Stomblood.
    Eureka is pretty easy to get through with the community that still does it. I did it maybe last month to get those cards. All Eureka cards come with NPCs now and you just have to unlock hydatos to have access to all said NPCs.
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    If you can buy them for 500k MGP, then I want to be able to sell them for half that, deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    There are only two. Only Varis and G-Warrior require extremes (though G-Warrior does require three different fights.) All the rest can drop in normal mode.

    That said, I absolutely agree. It's insane that some cards are locked behind some crazy amount of battle content. Be it EX trials, or Hydatos access, or Dalriada completion... that is the exact opposite of casual card playing. Cards shouldn't be locked behind combat in the first place, and especially not current tier extremes.
    Or completing the whole Masked Carnivale. I guess that's what you get when you release content that is not interesting enough for everyone and need to add a little extra; you force people to play content they don't like to complete other stuff.
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    @several above posts:

    This is overall my biggest dislike for both Triple Triad and Blu. I get why they did things the way they did to encourage gameplay back into the main "loops", but I really like when side-content is purely side content.

    Like all TT cards being available by simply playing TT. Sure, optional drops, but there should also be actual TT matches to get the cards, even if it's a super low drop.
    (On Blu, unrelated, but I really wish everything for it was entirely open world or masked carnival as opposed to dungeon/trials)
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