Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Player
    CKNovel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    1,907
    Character
    Cassia Kaedhan
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Extreme caution still triggers when doing nothing

    Date & Time: Any time, last seen 06-06-2021
    Frequency: Way too often to be a one time occurence
    World name: Ragnarok
    Character name: Cassia Kaedhan
    Monster name: Gabriel/Gabriel plus/Menenius
    Class/Level: MCH 80
    Party or solo: Both
    Area and coordinates: Bozja battlefields.
    Steps:
    1. Get the "Extreme Caution" or any "Don't move" debuffs.
    2. Don't do anything, lift your hands off you keyboard.
    3. Watch as the debuff explode.
    4. Collect your tears if you happened to be in a Duel.


    Description:
    Since Southern Front of Bozja, the "Extreme Caution" made a comeback. However even when doing nothing at all, the debuff will sometimes explode. This has been experienced in Bozja battlefields so far, never in dungeons or raids. It also happens with Acceleration bomb.

    Both debuff reads that you must not move or attack when the effects ends. Yet they randomly explode without warning or any input. This happened to me 5 times which is not a lot but it's odd it happened that much, especially in duel.
    It happened to me on different PC and connexions.

    Example
    Notice that there is a healing coming from Dynamic Sensory Jammer.
    (5)

  2. #2
    Player
    Lilyth's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    349
    Character
    Lilyth Chan
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    It will still trigger if you auto attack the target, "lifting your hands off your keyboard" is not enough. You need to either sheathe your weapon or unselect your current target.
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    Jeeqbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    6,805
    Character
    Oscarlet Oirellain
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I haven't done the duel, but this mechanic has been around since the final tier of Heavensward and what I always did was detarget and move my hands away from my keyboard when the countdown was almost up and this still works in all the content I do.
    (0)

  4. #4
    Player
    CKNovel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    1,907
    Character
    Cassia Kaedhan
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyth View Post
    It will still trigger if you auto attack the target, "lifting your hands off your keyboard" is not enough. You need to either sheathe your weapon or unselect your current target.
    Forgot to mention it, the video shows it but the weapon is sheathed.
    It often triggered when i sheathed the weapon away a bit early (more than 3 seconds before the debuff disappear.), not sure if it's related.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I haven't done the duel, but this mechanic has been around since the final tier of Heavensward and what I always did was detarget and move my hands away from my keyboard when the countdown was almost up and this still works in all the content I do.
    Yes, as far as I know it's been in Baelsar's wall, Lamebrix, Susano, Neo Exdeath and other content before Bozja. I never had troubles with those.
    The bug only happened in Zadnor and the Southest front, I'm suspecting the mechanic struggles when there's a lot of player. Never had problems in any other content, including Dalriada.
    (1)
    Last edited by CKNovel; 06-07-2021 at 02:23 AM.

  5. #5
    Player
    Lilyth's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    349
    Character
    Lilyth Chan
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Forgot to mention it, the video shows it but the weapon is sheathed.
    It often triggered when i sheathed the weapon away a bit early (more than 3 seconds before the debuff disappear.), not sure if it's related.
    That's so weird, I've never seen that happen before. Must really be something exclusive to Bozja/Zadnor due to large amount of players interacting.
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player
    X89K1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Posts
    21
    Character
    Calamitas Clone
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 2
    This bug happened to me once during my first Gabriel clear back in 5.35. Unfortunately I don't have a clue on how to actually consistently replicate this issue, as ever since then I've never encountered it although the conditions were the same: doing nothing(not even moving the camera on Legacy) with weapon sheathed before the counter hits 2 seconds remaining, and then only moving, panning, or attacking when the debuff disappears from list.

    EDIT: The job I was on when this incident happened was Black Mage at Level 80. This condition was the same for all non-encounters during Extreme Caution.
    (1)
    Last edited by X89K1; 06-07-2021 at 06:43 AM.

  7. #7
    Player
    CKNovel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    1,907
    Character
    Cassia Kaedhan
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    It happened again today, on Menenius this time, confirming the issue with the "dice".

    It's getting incredibly frustrating, especially when stacking 4 Notoriety and losing a potential buff + actual mettle. And it's actually the second time it happened against Menenius, ruining 2 runs.
    I've seen this bug happening only on MCH so far, anyone who experienced it could share their job?

    EDIT: Also had another occurence in stock but didn't posted it as I believed it was due to the camera.
    (0)
    Last edited by CKNovel; 06-07-2021 at 06:40 AM.

  8. #8
    Player
    Atreus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    734
    Character
    Atreus Auditore
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Confirming several instances of Acceleration Bomb with the Menenius duel going off with no auto-attacking, no moving, and no actions whatsoever. The same duel also has issues of Marching Orders not going off when the timer hits 0.

    Almost unplayable.
    (1)
    Team Hello First Time - FanFest 2016

  9. #9
    Player
    CKNovel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    1,907
    Character
    Cassia Kaedhan
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Bumping up this thread as someone seems to have actually found the solution, I'll be sharing it here.

    Basically, it's not the targeting but the auto-face.
    When you cast and stop moving your character will keep following the target and "move", going left or right.

    I guess it can still count as a bug, our character should not follow a target they're not targeting.

    EDIT:
    Here's casting and not moving after, detargeting.
    Here's casting but moving after, targeting.
    (1)
    Last edited by CKNovel; 06-10-2021 at 04:23 AM.