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    Unpopular Opinion: I preferred Heavensward endgame crafting due to less BOTS

    Now that Shadowbringers has made end game crafting a brain dead activity where you just copy a macro you found online into your macro sheet, and spam it nonstop while you afk, it’s also made it easier for BOTS to SPAM the market with gear and weapons nonstop.

    It makes it hard for people to earn gil these days. This is the cost of making endgame crafting too accessible. It makes BOTS ruin people’s fun with spam. I understand bots were present back then, but not NEARLY as much as now. It’s ridiculous and I hope Endwalker brings back challenge to end game crafting again.
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    The new macro spam is bad, as opposed to the old macro spam.
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Hmm. Yeah, I mean. Someone's been coming up with crafting macros for as long as they've been available. Not the issue at all.

    On a more important note, I think that MightyMollusk's hair has been changed to a darker shade of red. Those highlights are standing out more to my eyes today :0
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    I can't do much else with my hair, might as well change the shade once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrayonsAndPaint View Post
    It’s ridiculous and I hope Endwalker brings back challenge to end game crafting again.
    Do you really want a return to RNG failed crafting? It always annoyed me when using expensive mats, that through no fault of one's own they were lost.
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    There were already some advanced bots spamming crafts back in HW as some of them were able to account for the RNG involved in crafting.

    SB just made their activity blow up due to basically every aspect of crafting becoming much simpler, between material acquisition being easier, specializations no longer being required for most recipes, and the new abilities removing most of the reactive RNG.

    I do feel like they should do something to limit how much influence any one individual can have on a server's economy going into the future, though, as it's gotten more then a touch ridiculous at this point.
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    I don’t remember there ever being a time where macros weren’t the ideal way to craft in this game. Crafting being more accessible just meant more people were willing to do it.
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    are there more crafters now.. yes
    is that a bad thing? meh, not sure. just more people for market pvp

    the bots will be a thing until SE comes down HARD on RMT
    by hard I mean ban the buyers
    once the market for gil dries up, the market bots diminish
    until that time, everyone and their dog will bot because SE does nothing about it, so no risk

    the market bots... there is a three person team in Japan, that "deal" with bots. so.. yeah, dont hold your breath on the demise of market botting
    go after the gil buyers, make an example of them
    only then MIGHT we see market bots dissipate a bit
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    Elan Centauri
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    I personally love how accessible crafting is now, but that does come with some drawbacks. Bots are a pretty big problem, but they have been since the game started. SE has done little to address the issue. And by little I mean next to nothing.
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrayonsAndPaint View Post
    It makes it hard for people to earn gil these days.
    Not really. You just have to adjust and look through various opportunities.
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