You are trolling if you are not using essences and actions in Delubrum

[Awha]

It's not that complicated. Me using an essence will shave maybe a minute off the run. In order to get that essence I'll need to spend maybe 10 minutes farming the content I don't like, and it's still RNG so who knows, might not even get what I need.

Make at least the standard essences something you unlock and always have access to and people will use them. Force people to keep circling back to SF to farm them and most people won't bother, because it's a negative time investment.

Though if you spend the time farming them out then join the PF you can blitz through the content at a small price of dealing with the setup grind.

Though even using your situation if more people used essences then you will not be the only one using the essences then everyone's time in yhe content would be overall shorter. This idea of well if only I use it does not change much of everything true, though since many think like that yet still complain about the content just baffles me.

[Goji1639]

Though if you spend the time farming them out then join the PF you can blitz through the content at a small price of dealing with the setup grind.

Though even using your situation if more people used essences then you will not be the only one using the essences then everyone's time in yhe content would be overall shorter. This idea of well if only I use it does not change much of everything true, though since many think like that yet still complain about the content just baffles me.

The funny thing is that even if everyone in DF was using essences farming them would still be a negative time investment. Mathematically speaking, in a short run your contribution counts for even less time, so instead of saving a minute by using an essence you've saved maybe 30 seconds. Bozja is just very poorly designed content from a time investment/rewards standpoint. It'll ALWAYS be more efficient for you to do the bare minimum. Don't get mad at the players who were smart enough to realize it, get mad at SE for designing it that way.

As for PF; static groups who all agree to go in 100% will always set the efficiency curve. If you can get into one and stomach the rigidity and scheduling then yes, that would be the most efficient thing to do. People are upset that no one uses essences in DF, though. I'm just explaining why they don't.

[Awha]

The funny thing is that even if everyone in DF was using essences farming them would still be a negative time investment. Mathematically speaking, in a short run your contribution counts for even less time, so instead of saving a minute by using an essence you've saved maybe 30 seconds. Bozja is just very poorly designed content from a time investment/rewards standpoint. It'll ALWAYS be more efficient for you to do the bare minimum. Don't get mad at the players who were smart enough to realize it, get mad at SE for designing it that way.

As for PF; static groups who all agree to go in 100% will always set the efficiency curve. If you can get into one and stomach the rigidity and scheduling then yes, that would be the most efficient thing to do. People are upset that no one uses essences in DF, though. I'm just explaining why they don't.

In a stacked group man you can blow through DR in 15 mind. My best time is just under 17 minutes, and that was with us making mistakes and being sloppy.

Also man it is not that rigid sure for the first few runs it might be rigid but after that once people get to know you and stuff it is pretty easy to get a group whenever especially if you use discord.

It just makes no sense why people that dislike the content are so dead set on taking the longest path to the end goal. Not mad just makes no sense hate the content but I pick the path that results in me having to do said content for longer.

[Goji1639]

In a stacked group man you can blow through DR in 15 mind. My best time is just under 17 minutes, and that was with us making mistakes and being sloppy.

Also man it is not that rigid sure for the first few runs it might be rigid but after that once people get to know you and stuff it is pretty easy to get a group whenever especially if you use discord.

It just makes no sense why people that dislike the content are so dead set on taking the longest path to the end goal. Not mad just makes no sense hate the content but I pick the path that results in me having to do said content for longer.

DF is mainly about convenience, I agree that PF speed runs and statics are more efficient. All I'm really saying is that farming is less efficient than just running DR for every individual involved IF you're using duty finder. That's the reality of how SE designed this content, so I don't understand why anyone would expect you to farm essences for duty finder.

The people who refuse to farm essences aren't the ones who are complaining that DR takes too long, though. They likely just don't like the Bozja overworld and/or don't like farming trash mobs.

[Tint]

The people who refuse to farm essences aren't the ones who are complaining that DR takes too long, though. They likely just don't like the Bozja overworld and/or don't like farming trash mobs.

I like farming them. But it is often hard to find a party. And farming alone is less than ideal...

But what I don't like is spending the time and farming and then getting screwed over by RNG when I - again - don't get the right essences afterwards...

And what I really don't like is the general design of the content. Why do I have to farm these essences in the first place? Why is the content balanced with them in mind? What purpose has this entry barrier? Why do I need to grind essences just to be able to grind Delubrum?
And why does the DF not have fixed roles like everywhere else? Why can't we just switch roles inside? Why do I have to use essences and lost actions to turn my DD class into a healer instead of just pressing a button and switch to WHM?

It is just stupid.

[Goji1639]

I like farming them. But it is often hard to find a party. And farming alone is less than ideal...

But what I don't like is spending the time and farming and then getting screwed over by RNG when I - again - don't get the right essences afterwards...

And what I really don't like is the general design of the content. Why do I have to farm these essences in the first place? Why is the content balanced with them in mind? What purpose has this entry barrier? Why do I need to grind essences just to be able to grind Delubrum?
And why does the DF not have fixed roles like everywhere else? Why can't we just switch roles inside? Why do I have to use essences and lost actions to turn my DD class into a healer instead of just pressing a button and switch to WHM?

It is just stupid.

It's just a lazy way to prolong the content by creating a non-rewarding feedback loop.

It's like if every time you ran an Expert Roulette it destroyed a piece of your gear and forced you to buy/craft a replacement. On the surface, from SE's perspective, it seems like a win/win, because it causes a feedback loop that uses roulettes to stimulate the economy, engage crafters and move gil. Most players will see it for the manipulative, non-rewarding time sink it is, though, and basically just start queuing up with the cheapest, crappiest gear they can get away with.