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  1. #101
    Player
    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I'm kind of the opposite, I go into DR on whatever class I currently have some good essences for. Forces me to change it up. I can't very well brag about having all 80s if I don't stop myself from getting rusty on them, right? I get tired of going as SMN for everything because it's my best geared class - well, in Delubrum, your best geared class is whatever you have a good essence for.

    Last night I went in as a DPS DRK and had a blast. Another tank (a GNB I think) was in our party as MT and I kept tossing my TBN on him so our healers got more uptime too.
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  2. #102
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    See I don't see this as a good comparison bc for the most part in getting gear you get some choice in what gear you can get in form of buying with tombstones or using a coffers on the job you want to gear. If fragments worked more like gear coffers from savage where you get the actions and essences base on the job you appraise as then I would say this is a good comparison but it's not. As someone who only plays smn and dnc I get more healer and tank actions and essences than dps ones for those jobs. The biggest problem with the fragments is the fact it's completely random on what you get a lot of times. Personally, I'm not going to switch my job to one I don't like playing just because I cant pick and choose the essences I want when I appraise the fragments. Now if I have actions and essences for my smn and dnc I use them but most of the time I don't. Like last night I used my last chainspell and my last Pure Essence of the Elder and now I most likely wont run DR with anything unless rng is kind to me and give me more of the stuff I can actually use. Shoot a way to trade actions and essences for those that are useful would be great.
    It's called the marketboard

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  3. #103
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    Fawkes's Avatar
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    It's called the marketboard
    They meant trade the ones you already have for ones you need. Buying them off the marketboard doesn't guarantee it will appraise into the essence you actually want.

    And with the prices of fragments you could easily spend half a million gil and not even get one of the type of essence you wanted, so it's not really a viable solution.
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  4. #104
    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Character
    Father Gascoigne
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
    This.

    Another way of looking at it: Would you do dungeons without your gear? Would you do any other content without your gear?

    In bozja, everyone has the same stats, no matter what gear you wear. The only way you have to get past a baseline that is beneath the previous expansion's levels, is to use essences and lost actions, and these put you at the equivalent potential as Shadowbringers BiS or better.

    Your essences and lost actions *are* your gear in Save the Queen.

    Would you do dungeons without your gear?
    If I had to buy/farm a new set of gear after every run then yea, if the game let me queue without it, and we could still clear the content, I eventually would.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 06-06-2021 at 07:17 AM.

  5. #105
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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Character
    Rose Blackstorm
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    I'm kind of the opposite, I go into DR on whatever class I currently have some good essences for. Forces me to change it up. I can't very well brag about having all 80s if I don't stop myself from getting rusty on them, right? I get tired of going as SMN for everything because it's my best geared class - well, in Delubrum, your best geared class is whatever you have a good essence for.

    Last night I went in as a DPS DRK and had a blast. Another tank (a GNB I think) was in our party as MT and I kept tossing my TBN on him so our healers got more uptime too.
    For me just what I feel comfortable with doing content on. I have everything to 80 but Im really bad at healer and really hate healing tbh. Tanks Im so-so on but I feel Im more deadweight on a Job I dont know super well. SMN, RDM, and DNC I know the rotations on and can do decent dps on them vs other jobs like healers and tanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    It's called the marketboard

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    That doesn't solve the rng part of fragments. You just spending Gil in hopes to get actions and essences you can use on the job you want to play. You can only buy the fragments, not the Essences and actions, those are still up to rng base on the fragments you use. Also as someone who wants to move their large one day, I'm not going to waste my Gil just to make few ppl runs go faster. Moving my home to an area I like better is more important to me than wasting Gil on fragments in hopes I don't end up with a bunch of tank and healer stuff.
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  6. #106
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    They meant trade the ones you already have for ones you need. Buying them off the marketboard doesn't guarantee it will appraise into the essence you actually want.

    And with the prices of fragments you could easily spend half a million gil and not even get one of the type of essence you wanted, so it's not really a viable solution.
    Yeah, I've never bought a fragment in my life, but I appreciate people advertising them.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

  7. #107
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    Character
    Fleur Mjallhvit
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Selling fragments on the market board, then go Delubrum without using essences... getting paid for getting carried. You leecher really have no pride at all.
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    Last edited by OrigNN; 06-06-2021 at 07:50 AM.

  8. #108
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    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by OrigNN View Post
    Selling fragments on the market board, then go Delubrum without using essences... getting payed for getting carried. You leecher really have no pride at all.
    Don't be the idiot that pays us and then "carries" us lmao
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  9. #109
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    To be fair, SE should give out more of them. Basic tank/heal essences are easy to get, but dps is a bit more of a pain and the better essences and actions are generally low drop. I'd like to see fragments being added to the Bozjan coin vendors. It's not that hard to obtain them but still they should be encouraging us to have fun with the system, not treating it like a privilege to grind for.
    Completely agree with this

    Still...
    There still exist a few players that refuses to meld despite the game literally raining us with materias. I got a feeling even if we do get this change, we’ll still run into the same “LmAo YoU dOn’T nEeD eSsEnCe JuSt SeLl ThEm In MaRkEtBoArD tO bUy GlAm :V”
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  10. #110
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    The part of me that gets me if people complain about the content and the fact they have to do said content for their relic, but the game provides a means to get through the content quicker but people refuse to do said means because they dislike said content even though in the long run it would result in less overall time doing said content. I am confused!
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