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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    How the hell do people not have enough essence?
    To be fair, SE should give out more of them. Basic tank/heal essences are easy to get, but dps is a bit more of a pain and the better essences and actions are generally low drop. I'd like to see fragments being added to the Bozjan coin vendors. It's not that hard to obtain them but still they should be encouraging us to have fun with the system, not treating it like a privilege to grind for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    I'm pretty sure people advocating for others to use essence are generally more likely to be in favor of a parser than against it.
    This is hilarious. All it takes to advocate for essences is to be someone who is actually usually contributing more than auto-attacks in DR and has some idea of what a fairly normal length of a DR run can be, let alone speed run. If I'm on my AST and I'm up to to multiple devotions on the first boss (for example) - there's a serious problem.

    The longer that a DR drags on, the more chances that people will die to mechanics, not to mention, most people generally don't want to be in a 45 minute run. Increasingly, if there are DPS that won't use lost actions, if I see a WHM, I would hope that they would use profane - they'll get my cards and my thanks - unless hopefully any of those DPS having proofs of mettle.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    To be fair, SE should give out more of them. Basic tank/heal essences are easy to get, but dps is a bit more of a pain and the better essences and actions are generally low drop. I'd like to see fragments being added to the Bozjan coin vendors. It's not that hard to obtain them but still they should be encouraging us to have fun with the system, not treating it like a privilege to grind for.
    Yeah, pretty much. I'm swimming in Bloodsuckers at the moment. lol But I don't have many dps essences otherwise, maybe 4-5 each? They could definitely use a bit of an increase in their drop rates, or as you said maybe add more of them to a vendor to be purchased with coins.
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  4. #94
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    I would love to if getting those things wasn't completely rng base. I get actions and pots for jobs I don't play and never will play. I'm not going to play a healer, melee, or a tank just bc I have a bunch of their actions and pots. I don't like playing those jobs and I do a lot worst than playing smn, dnc, or rdm with no actions. If it was like eureka where I could make the actions I wanted or if they just let you pick the actions from the fragments then I would use those all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Plausible. Still, Healers & Tanks in this content can actually pull off some monstrous degree of damage surpassing some legit DPS when done right.
    I actually primarily play tank in DR/Castrum/Dalraida nowadays, and healer when I have the essences, but I mostly just have tons of tank essences. I also have dozens of applicable damage increasing lost actions for burst.. Plus 10 damage valor..
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    This is hilarious. All it takes to advocate for essences is to be someone who is actually usually contributing more than auto-attacks in DR and has some idea of what a fairly normal length of a DR run can be, let alone speed run. If I'm on my AST and I'm up to to multiple devotions on the first boss (for example) - there's a serious problem.

    The longer that a DR drags on, the more chances that people will die to mechanics, not to mention, most people generally don't want to be in a 45 minute run. Increasingly, if there are DPS that won't use lost actions, if I see a WHM, I would hope that they would use profane - they'll get my cards and my thanks - unless hopefully any of those DPS having proofs of mettle.
    This.

    Another way of looking at it: Would you do dungeons without your gear? Would you do any other content without your gear?

    In bozja, everyone has the same stats, no matter what gear you wear. The only way you have to get past a baseline that is beneath the previous expansion's levels, is to use essences and lost actions, and these put you at the equivalent potential as Shadowbringers BiS or better.

    Your essences and lost actions *are* your gear in Save the Queen.

    Would you do dungeons without your gear?
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Sort of refuted your own point on your own here.
    Not really, for you it is encouragement. But as I have said I don't care how long the run is so I am not that encouraged to make the essence use mandatory :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
    This.

    Another way of looking at it: Would you do dungeons without your gear? Would you do any other content without your gear?

    In bozja, everyone has the same stats, no matter what gear you wear. The only way you have to get past a baseline that is beneath the previous expansion's levels, is to use essences and lost actions, and these put you at the equivalent potential as Shadowbringers BiS or better.

    Your essences and lost actions *are* your gear in Save the Queen.

    Would you do dungeons without your gear?
    If my pants exploded after every dungeon and I had to go get new pants, yeah I would probably just stop wearing pants at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Not really, for you it is encouragement.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
    This.

    Another way of looking at it: Would you do dungeons without your gear? Would you do any other content without your gear?

    In bozja, everyone has the same stats, no matter what gear you wear. The only way you have to get past a baseline that is beneath the previous expansion's levels, is to use essences and lost actions, and these put you at the equivalent potential as Shadowbringers BiS or better.

    Your essences and lost actions *are* your gear in Save the Queen.

    Would you do dungeons without your gear?
    See I don't see this as a good comparison bc for the most part in getting gear you get some choice in what gear you can get in form of buying with tombstones or using a coffers on the job you want to gear. If fragments worked more like gear coffers from savage where you get the actions and essences base on the job you appraise as then I would say this is a good comparison but it's not. As someone who only plays smn and dnc I get more healer and tank actions and essences than dps ones for those jobs. The biggest problem with the fragments is the fact it's completely random on what you get a lot of times. Personally, I'm not going to switch my job to one I don't like playing just because I cant pick and choose the essences I want when I appraise the fragments. Now if I have actions and essences for my smn and dnc I use them but most of the time I don't. Like last night I used my last chainspell and my last Pure Essence of the Elder and now I most likely wont run DR with anything unless rng is kind to me and give me more of the stuff I can actually use. Shoot a way to trade actions and essences for those that are useful would be great.
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