You are trolling if you are not using essences and actions in Delubrum

[Vahlnir]

To be fair, SE should give out more of them. Basic tank/heal essences are easy to get, but dps is a bit more of a pain and the better essences and actions are generally low drop. I'd like to see fragments being added to the Bozjan coin vendors. It's not that hard to obtain them but still they should be encouraging us to have fun with the system, not treating it like a privilege to grind for.

Yeah, pretty much. I'm swimming in Bloodsuckers at the moment. lol But I don't have many dps essences otherwise, maybe 4-5 each? They could definitely use a bit of an increase in their drop rates, or as you said maybe add more of them to a vendor to be purchased with coins.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

How the hell do people not have enough essence? We spend a lot of time doing fates, which give us fragments, to level our rank until 15. The quests story also give fragments as rewards. And then we need to do CLL x15 (before buff), which also showers us with fragments, based in how many prisoners we save. The next step is DR, and it also give us more fragments (though pretty rare).

What you got from CLL and those fates are enough for a x15 DR runs. Even after CLL buff (which means you only need to run CLL x3 for each relic), each CLL runs give 2/3 per fragments.

So yeah, you will only run out of essence if you sell all of them on MB.

To be frank, skirmishes alone do not give abundance of essences/frags. They are—at worst case—provides you just enough amount to ease through one excursion, IF you even get the ones you can take advantage of.

So the only two ways for people to -not- have any useable essences would be the part I bolded, or one simply do nothing but twiddling their thumb in the instance waiting for CE/CLL/Dalriada (little to no skirmish grind, no cluster farm, no frag farm). Factor in multiple DRn runs and the whole system being non-incentivizing, it is possible to run out of them. Though all it takes is just a small 20m farm to regain a lot, so.... /shrug

[iVolke]

This entire thread shows how vehemently ffxiv players will defend doing the absolute bare minimum.

After tasting 25-30mins PF runs compared to my 50-60min DF runs, I will never ever queue for DR through DF again.

The ffxiv community can be quite toxic when it comes to....playing the game?

"Hey can you use your potion that gives you 80%+ more dmg dealt, it'd be really helpf-" "dude stfu elitist let me play how I want it's my game it'll die EVENTUALLY i don't care how long it takes"

[NolChannel]

Tl;dr

OP is still doing DR in week 50 and is upset people don't want to grind the Southern Front (NOT ZANDOR) for 20 minutes to get 1 potion that will make the entire run maybe 1 minute faster.

Sorry, this mythical hive-mind does not exist. And at this point, in all likelihood, if you know how to do your rotation, you'll exceed the aggro list of most people in the party, essence or not. Why?

Anyone competent still doing relics is doing POTD runs to 200.

That's it. If the average run is >30 minutes in PF, you may as well run POTD. So when you remove the people who (1) are good but hate DR, so they're willing to just level off-classes and accept a slower rate or (2) are good but have the single-segment time investment to run POTD?

Yeah, DR is going to suck. That's on you for still doing dead content.

[KageTokage]

OP is still doing DR in week 50 and is upset people don't want to grind the Southern Front (NOT ZANDOR) for 20 minutes to get 1 potion that will make the entire run maybe 1 minute faster.

If you want martialist/aetherweaver you can probably farm closer to 30ish fragments in that time as they drop as many as three at a time if you're killing the rank III turtles.

It's the other essences like skirmisher and ordained that are a hassle because they only drop one at a time regardless of what you're killing.

[iVolke]

Tl;dr

OP is still doing DR in week 50 and is upset people don't want to grind the Southern Front (NOT ZANDOR) for 20 minutes to get 1 potion that will make the entire run maybe 1 minute faster.

Sorry, this mythical hive-mind does not exist. And at this point, in all likelihood, if you know how to do your rotation, you'll exceed the aggro list of most people in the party, essence or not. Why?

Anyone competent still doing relics is doing POTD runs to 200.

That's it. If the average run is >30 minutes in PF, you may as well run POTD. So when you remove the people who (1) are good but hate DR, so they're willing to just level off-classes and accept a slower rate or (2) are good but have the single-segment time investment to run POTD?

Yeah, DR is going to suck. That's on you for still doing dead content.

The difference between runs with/with no essences is 30 - 35min.

[NolChannel]

The difference between runs with/with no essences is 30 - 35min.

Wow, I didn't know ONE person using an essence took off 30 minutes!

/s

[BaconBits]

"What difference could one person possibly make" said the entire 24 man party.

Small wonder things take so long when everyone thinks like that.

[NolChannel]

"What difference could one person possibly make" said the entire 24 man party.

Small wonder things take so long when everyone thinks like that.

Assuming essences cost 1500 each (lowballing) and the drop rate is one-in-three, a DR run "satisfactory to your standards" costs a total of 108,000 gil.

Do you pot for leveling dungeons, too?

[Rinhi]

Tl;dr

OP is still doing DR in week 50 and is upset people don't want to grind the Southern Front (NOT ZANDOR) for 20 minutes to get 1 potion that will make the entire run maybe 1 minute faster.

Sorry, this mythical hive-mind does not exist. And at this point, in all likelihood, if you know how to do your rotation, you'll exceed the aggro list of most people in the party, essence or not. Why?

Anyone competent still doing relics is doing POTD runs to 200.

That's it. If the average run is >30 minutes in PF, you may as well run POTD. So when you remove the people who (1) are good but hate DR, so they're willing to just level off-classes and accept a slower rate or (2) are good but have the single-segment time investment to run POTD?

Yeah, DR is going to suck. That's on you for still doing dead content.

it's honestly crazy how someone can be so wrong, lazy and entitled and be that proud of it