You are trolling if you are not using essences and actions in Delubrum

[MPK]

I go in with Deep Essence of the Veteran

[Nabril]

If you don't like it then stop resisting the use of DPS meters that make public everyone's DPS.

I don't use essences or potions in dungeons until DPS meters are allowed. I'm not wasting time or money on buffs if I can't verify the level of increase I'm getting from them.

[ZedxKayn]

If you don't like it then stop resisting the use of DPS meters that make public everyone's DPS.

I'm pretty sure people advocating for others to use essence are generally more likely to be in favor of a parser than against it.

[KageTokage]

I feel like at this point they should just make the "basic" essences like Martialist, Aetherweaver, and Skirmisher available for purchase with gil, because people didn't want to farm them back when Southern Front was the only Bozja instance and the problem has just gotten worse now that Zadnor is the new thing and the essence fragments don't drop at all there outside of a chance to get a deep essence or two from the Dalriada.

Alternatively, they could just replace the fireworks in lockboxes with common fragments...

I would love to see this fictional 15 minute delubrum run, would be amazing to witness. :P

Sub 15 minutes without a premade is a bit unreasonable, but it was doable pre-5.55 if everyone was using haste gear, pure essences and coordinating use of raid buffs/debuffs.

These days I'd consider anything less then 30 minutes in a random group good enough.

If you don't like it then stop resisting the use of DPS meters that make public everyone's DPS.

I don't use essences or potions in dungeons until DPS meters are allowed. I'm not wasting time or money on buffs if I can't verify the level of increase I'm getting from them.

I don't think you need a parser to verify that a flat 60/80% damage increase on tanks/healers respectively is massive.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Nah, carrying is when one or more person put in a disproportionate amount of work compared to the rest of their party. If person A does 3k but person B does 13k and theyre on the same job, person A is on B's back.

Longer runs also increase the chances of wipes btw.

If they can get through the content with that little dps, which they could seeing as people were clearing DR without essences at the beginning.. no you are not carrying. If you were the difference between a clear or wipe then sure you are carrying. But you're not. A longer run does not on it's own increase the likelihood of a wipe either. If people are not bothering potting but still know all the mechanics they have to go through.. there won't be a wipe you will just take a bit longer. If someone says "I carried x through savage" It implies they would NEVER have cleared it without you. Oh this person just got carried through savage they couldn't have done it otherwise, i.e. if everyone played like that they would not have cleared.

You speeding things up is not carrying. It's a nice thing sure. But they can get on just fine without your arrogant arse.

[ZedxKayn]

If they can get through the content with that little dps, which they could seeing as people were clearing DR without essences at the beginning.. no you are not carrying. If you were the difference between a clear or wipe then sure you are carrying. But you're not. A longer run does not on it's own increase the likelihood of a wipe either. If people are not bothering potting but still know all the mechanics they have to go through.. there won't be a wipe you will just take a bit longer. If someone says "I carried x through savage" It implies they would NEVER have cleared it without you. Oh this person just got carried through savage they couldn't have done it otherwise, i.e. if everyone played like that they would not have cleared.

You speeding things up is not carrying. It's a nice thing sure. But they can get on just fine without your arrogant arse.

Faster runs absolutely do lessen the likelihood of wipes, it's simple maths and why you get PFs with ilvs much higher than necessary for harder content: you see less mechanics, people have less time to make raid-ending mistakes, healers are less likely to run out of resources, and the longer a fight lasts the more people will tire which also adds to the likelihood of mistakes happening.
It's more severe in expert+ content but the principle applies to all content in the game.

Cool name calling btw really drives your point about me being an ass home.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Now I would never expect this in a random DF group. This party was advertised in PF specifically to trash bosses. With that said though, I do think Essences should have been made mandatory for queuing simply because the bosses are scaled with the belief you'll have them. Part of the fault, however, lies on the devs for not better incentivizing them. Far too few fragments drop from DR itself. They also missed a perfect opportunity to stuff low grade Essences in lockboxes instead of yet more useless prisms. The problem is many players simply don't like Bozja and are only partaking in it for their relic. They aren't going to spend gil or farm clusters because they don't care about the content to begin with. The dev team needs to stop assuming people will go out of their way without a big incentive or being outright forced.

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I would have to disagree a bit there. If they were 100% scaled with that belief they would have been near unbeatable without them, but the content is still really easy without. So far as I see it in general the actions are meant to be something fun, in savage I would say they are mandatory but otherwise no. The fun of being able to hit big numbers you otherwise never would, the novelty! It is fun to see a boss melt or see yourself hit a super fat crit dh.

Also equating not using an essence to someone straight up afk is so disingenuous. One person is actively playing, helping and not breaking the ToS. The other is not even there and is reportable for breaking the ToS. Just because it is not to your standard does not make it equivalent to breaking the rules. Most people that I see not using essences in these threads have said they use what they have. They don't exactly drop like candy. And they are used up quickly, I am not sitting for 30mins shouting for a cluster farm or spending my gil when I am fine with a slower run.

[Vahlnir]

I would have to disagree a bit there. If they were 100% scaled with that belief they would have been near unbeatable without them, but the content is still really easy without. So far as I see it in general the actions are meant to be something fun, in savage I would say they are mandatory but otherwise no. The fun of being able to hit big numbers you otherwise never would, the novelty! It is fun to see a boss melt or see yourself hit a super fat crit dh.

With how high their HP pools are compared to other content...yeah, they do encourage essence use. There's a difference between a scale up in difficulty and making each boss damage sponges.

[Axxion]

Mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXk9AguQ_QY

[Aelin_Ashryver]

With how high their HP pools are compared to other content...yeah, they do encourage essence use. There's a difference between a scale up in difficulty and making each boss damage sponges.

In savage I would say so. I never said they are not scaled AT ALL due to their existence. Just not in the normal content enough such that their use is mandatory or heavily encouraged. If they really really wanted people using them. The bosses would be hitting harder and have even more HP. Being able to turn a 45min fight into a 15 minute one shows that much. There is no encouragement to use them, I don't get anything extra that is worthwhile for potting all the time. There is no achievement for it, correct me if I'm wrong. I know there is one for appraising but not for using. For normal DR they are entirely optional and hardly encouraged to me at all.