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    Selling fragments on the market board, then go Delubrum without using essences... getting paid for getting carried. You leecher really have no pride at all.
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    Last edited by OrigNN; 06-06-2021 at 07:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrigNN View Post
    Selling fragments on the market board, then go Delubrum without using essences... getting payed for getting carried. You leecher really have no pride at all.
    Don't be the idiot that pays us and then "carries" us lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Don't be the idiot that pays us and then "carries" us lmao
    Exactly the answer I expected. Thank you for proving my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrigNN View Post
    Exactly the answer I expected. Thank you for proving my point.
    You're very welcome. I look forward to the next 10mill made! 100mill here I come wew!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    To be fair, SE should give out more of them. Basic tank/heal essences are easy to get, but dps is a bit more of a pain and the better essences and actions are generally low drop. I'd like to see fragments being added to the Bozjan coin vendors. It's not that hard to obtain them but still they should be encouraging us to have fun with the system, not treating it like a privilege to grind for.
    Completely agree with this

    Still...
    There still exist a few players that refuses to meld despite the game literally raining us with materias. I got a feeling even if we do get this change, we’ll still run into the same “LmAo YoU dOn’T nEeD eSsEnCe JuSt SeLl ThEm In MaRkEtBoArD tO bUy GlAm :V”
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    The part of me that gets me if people complain about the content and the fact they have to do said content for their relic, but the game provides a means to get through the content quicker but people refuse to do said means because they dislike said content even though in the long run it would result in less overall time doing said content. I am confused!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    The part of me that gets me if people complain about the content and the fact they have to do said content for their relic, but the game provides a means to get through the content quicker but people refuse to do said means because they dislike said content even though in the long run it would result in less overall time doing said content. I am confused!
    It's not that complicated. Me using an essence will shave maybe a minute off the run. In order to get that essence I'll need to spend maybe 10 minutes farming the content I don't like, and it's still RNG so who knows, might not even get what I need.

    Make at least the standard essences something you unlock and always have access to and people will use them. Force people to keep circling back to SF to farm them and most people won't bother, because it's a negative time investment.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 06-06-2021 at 09:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    It's not that complicated. Me using an essence will shave maybe a minute off the run. In order to get that essence I'll need to spend maybe 10 minutes farming the content I don't like, and it's still RNG so who knows, might not even get what I need.

    Make at least the standard essences something you unlock and always have access to and people will use them. Force people to keep circling back to SF to farm them and most people won't bother, because it's a negative time investment.
    Though if you spend the time farming them out then join the PF you can blitz through the content at a small price of dealing with the setup grind.

    Though even using your situation if more people used essences then you will not be the only one using the essences then everyone's time in yhe content would be overall shorter. This idea of well if only I use it does not change much of everything true, though since many think like that yet still complain about the content just baffles me.
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    Last edited by Awha; 06-06-2021 at 09:07 AM.

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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Though if you spend the time farming them out then join the PF you can blitz through the content at a small price of dealing with the setup grind.

    Though even using your situation if more people used essences then you will not be the only one using the essences then everyone's time in yhe content would be overall shorter. This idea of well if only I use it does not change much of everything true, though since many think like that yet still complain about the content just baffles me.
    The funny thing is that even if everyone in DF was using essences farming them would still be a negative time investment. Mathematically speaking, in a short run your contribution counts for even less time, so instead of saving a minute by using an essence you've saved maybe 30 seconds. Bozja is just very poorly designed content from a time investment/rewards standpoint. It'll ALWAYS be more efficient for you to do the bare minimum. Don't get mad at the players who were smart enough to realize it, get mad at SE for designing it that way.

    As for PF; static groups who all agree to go in 100% will always set the efficiency curve. If you can get into one and stomach the rigidity and scheduling then yes, that would be the most efficient thing to do. People are upset that no one uses essences in DF, though. I'm just explaining why they don't.
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