How about some

[CocidiusEratos]

How about some updates that are NOT during American play times? I dont remember an update that wasnt around 2pm-8pm PST. I do understand that you need someone at the servers to impliment the update, but havent you guys heard of night shift?

[Vonleo]

yeah the maint is brutal for us north americans...it starts right when most ppl are getting off work 5pm to 10pm seriously? why not have it earlier? so it ends around 6 or 7pm? but this 5 to 10pm maint thing needs to be changed...thats the whole freaking day for most ppl that have normal hour jobs so when maint is done ppl are left with what? 1 or 2 hours of play time?

[Alerith]

How about some updates that are NOT during American play times? I dont remember an update that wasnt around 2pm-8pm PST. I do understand that you need someone at the servers to impliment the update, but havent you guys heard of night shift?

yeah the maint is brutal for us north americans...it starts right when most ppl are getting off work 5pm to 10pm seriously? why not have it earlier? so it ends around 6 or 7pm? but this 5 to 10pm maint thing needs to be changed...thats the whole freaking day for most ppl that have normal hour jobs so when maint is done ppl are left with what? 1 or 2 hours of play time?

Are you two really that thick? Why should they just conform to American time zones? They are their own country with their own times and work schedules.

Don't you think it's a little stupid to ask them to conform to our time just because we play in it?

[Lux_Rayna]

How about some updates that are NOT during American play times? I dont remember an update that wasnt around 2pm-8pm PST. I do understand that you need someone at the servers to impliment the update, but havent you guys heard of night shift?

Majority of working class America works 9-5. Sometimes 10-4. Sometimes 8-3. But generally speaking, 2-5 is not playtime for working adults.

Now there will always be night shifters, and graveyard shifters, but why expect the world to conform to your odd hours? Gotta please the majority.

[Vonleo]

Are you two really that thick? Why should they just conform to American time zones? They are their own country with their own times and work schedules.

Don't you think it's a little stupid to ask them to conform to our time just because we play in it?

And heres a question.

If they are going to try and make this game more appealing to more north american players wouldn't they try to cater to them SOME WHAT? how the heck is having the maint earlier by 2 hours going to effect the japanese that dang much? ARE YOU THAT THICK?

[Delsus]

yeah the maint is brutal for us north americans...it starts right when most ppl are getting off work 5pm to 10pm seriously? why not have it earlier? so it ends around 6 or 7pm? but this 5 to 10pm maint thing needs to be changed...thats the whole freaking day for most ppl that have normal hour jobs so when maint is done ppl are left with what? 1 or 2 hours of play time?

Because that would cover all of EU prime time and I would be affected more than 10pm-3am.

US is not the whole world so its not "the whole freaking day for most people" who play, we see threads like this all the every patch since FFXI NA and EU release either "Why does the patch have to be in EU/NA prime time move it because I get affected".

[Alerith]

And heres a question.

If they are going to try and make this game more appealing to more north american players wouldn't they try to cater to them SOME WHAT? how the heck is having the maint earlier by 2 hours going to effect the japanese that dang much? ARE YOU THAT THICK?

Continuing with the "Are you that thick" questions:

How is having the maintenance two hours later affecting NA players "that dang much"? It's the exact same standard. Not to mention the Japanese and American time zones aren't the only ones affected by shifting maintenance times.

It's like if a game was American run. You would expect them to do maintenance during their hours. Not conform to Japanese standard time or any EU timezone.

[Vonleo]

Because that would cover all of EU prime time and I would be affected more than 10pm-3am.

US is not the whole world so its not "the whole freaking day for most people" who play, we see threads like this all the every patch since FFXI NA and EU release either "Why does the patch have to be in EU/NA prime time move it because I get affected".

Where in my posts did i say america was the whole world? stop trying to stick words into my mouth please.

I mean the maint time is brutal for us north americans you cannot freaking deny that 5pm to 10pm is pure peak time for us.

[ChickNorris]

Or you could just....you know...not play for an evening... /ducks

Additionally, the patch finishes at 11am JST. When most people are at work. I have several friends who will not be doing the patch download til they get home. Let alone experience the content as soon as it is available....you know....like the NAs.

And you don't even mention the EUs where it will be like 3-5am (depending on location) when the patch will be finished. Again, they would have to wait to download patch and wake up early or stay up all night to play new content.

Suddenly, having to do something else aside from play the game for a couple hours one night doesn't seem too much to ask.

[Enfarious]

Can't we all just get along?
Rolling hour updates: update 1@00GMT 2@04GMT 3@08GMT 4@12GMT 5@16GMT 6@20GMT and bam we all get screwed by an update here and there, but we also all get not screwed here and there.

The game was built with a worldwide audience in mind. It's solutions that fuck everyone equally that work in that audience.

Edit: I'm EST and work 8A~5P, chances are that I'll get to log in for ~30 mins after the maint. period I've yet to cry about it or about any of the others that have happened in a way to ensure I missed out on a solid day of play and got into new content later than others.