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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Hmmm...

    A house, which is at best a place to get a few easy mats for low gil and repair gear and so you can roleplay that you have a house... versus making the experience better for 20+ players a run in an online game... Which is the most incredibly egotistical decision?
    Ahaha yeah lemme just sell my large house to benefit 20 randoms.. hmm no? I worked for the gil and the house. You put no value in what a house can give to someone, but a house can be a centre for a community, for many it is the whole reason that keeps them subbed.
    Which is the most incredibly egotistical, expecting a total stranger to give up something important to them which they enjoy for YOU or letting them enjoy a game and you mind your own business? HMMMM hard choice that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    They're optional consumables in optional content.
    So is food, but people will likely be displeased by people not fooding in appropriate content, and the impact food has on our DPS doesn't even begin to compare to the impact essences have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Ahaha yeah lemme just sell my large house to benefit 20 randoms.. hmm no? I worked for the gil and the house. You put no value in what a house can give to someone, but a house can be a centre for a community, for many it is the whole reason that keeps them subbed.
    Which is the most incredibly egotistical, expecting a total stranger to give up something important to them which they enjoy for YOU or letting them enjoy a game and you mind your own business? HMMMM hard choice that one.
    bruh... you don't need 100mil+ to buy essences... no one is asking you to sell your house... we're asking to spend either a few minutes or a few pennies to save a lot of time for 24 people lmfao

    Also as soon as you get matched with them, the way you play affects them and therefore becomes their business as well.
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    Last edited by ZedxKayn; 06-04-2021 at 09:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    to save a lot of time for 24 people
    This isn't a good argument. ONE PERSON in the run using an essence doesn't "save a lot of time." You people keep taking the difference between EVERYONE using an essence and NO ONE using an essence, then applying it to a situation where ONE PERSON is saying they aren't using essences.

    Me popping an essence isn't the difference between a 45 minute run and a 20 minute run, it's the difference between a 45 minute run and maybe a 43 minute run. It's not going to make a difference that anyone in the run will really care about, but the time I spend farming or the gil I spend on the market board will make a difference to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    This isn't a good argument. ONE PERSON in the run using an essence doesn't "save a lot of time." You people keep taking the difference between EVERYONE using an essence and NO ONE using an essence, then applying it to a situation where ONE PERSON is saying they aren't using essences.

    Me popping an essence isn't the difference between a 45 minute run and a 25 minute run, it's the difference between a 45 minute run and maybe a 42 minute run. It's not going to make a difference that anyone in the run will really care about, but the time I spend farming or the gil I spend on the market board will make a difference to me.
    ... And it's because people not using essence chose to remain a part of the problem that things don't change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    ... And it's because people not using essence chose to remain a part of the problem that things don't change.
    So, instead of severely hurting 23 other people, like in your fantasy scenario, what I'm actually doing is being like .01% of a large scale problem that's completely beyond my ability to fix anyways...

    Yea, I'm fine with that. If you want to throw your time and gil into a bottomless pit in order to pay lip-service to a problem that's WAY beyond your scope then have fun, but don't try to force that onto everyone.
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    To what did I owe these 7 new pages of bad choices & regrets since I left it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    The fact you think it's going to cost you "hours" to get clusters is beyond me and makes me believe you're truly ignorant on how to get them. All the best to you though.
    They already stated that they’re simply not going to bother with it. Even LittleImp had linked them to a short video of how -easy- to farm those frags in other past thread & they remain where they are.

    Let them be... lol /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I'm about 5 DR runs in and they've taken about 35 minutes each
    Wow, just wow! Not only you are talking and arguing about things you don't have the slightest idea about, now you are also lying about it! My poor eyes
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    A couple of players doing significantly more dps than everyone else does greatly shorten a run. And thats only a couple, if a party is doing things correctly the difference is even more significant. If all 24 are, well that's a 15 minute run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    To what did I owe these 7 new pages of bad choices & regrets since I left it?



    They already stated that they’re simply not going to bother with it. Even LittleImp had linked them to a short video of how -easy- to farm those frags in other past thread & they remain where they are.

    Let them be... lol /shrug
    I just wish they’d admit that they’re just too lazy and entitled to spend 15 minutes farming fragments of skill right outside the bozja gate. I’m a solo player. I don’t grab packs of mobs and aoe them to death. I kill maybe 5 or 6, get like 4 frags of skill, and I’m done. And it STILL is enough for me to make an impact in CEs, fates, etc. I havent even TOUCHED DR and I know that by the time I do (since Im rank 11 right now) I’ll have more than enough to make even a small impact. I regularly have essence of the martialist on hand - a 60% Damage boost? sign me up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    It's more a matter of context. If you don't quote who you're talking to then people might not know who you're talking to. It's more likely to cause a misunderstanding, which is all this was.

    This little school analogy is a bad one, though. People who don't have essences aren't borrowing them from the people who do because they can't participate without them. I don't think a lot of you actually understand the logistics of how essences work, which may be what's causing some of your hurt feelings towards people who don't use them.


    PF is a little too rigid, and I'm guessing if you're not on during peak hours it's difficult to find a DR speed run. I tend to prefer runs that are guaranteed at any hour, even if they take longer.

    DR isn't bad, though, so I don't necessarily feel like I need to get through it as fast as possible. I wish it was just a standard Alliance Raid, though, and not tied to Bozja. I wish the whole Relic wasn't tied to Bozja.
    At first yeah though after a few runs I got hit up in discord and was just doing non peak time runs. Though I get your point it is still slightly rigid to get a group at the start.
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