FF14 community

[Quintessa]

Thank you I want to see about deleting this thread or possibly deleting my account on the forums. I am thinking about just playing solo and staying away from most players since if you give any sort of criticism they hound you out. The game isn't perfect at all and there is alot of things that could be fixed but as soon as you say something they attack you. DR, BSF isn't perfect at all. They act like people have tons of gil to buy the fragments or can sit and grind for essences knowing that it is random what you get, it be nice if you could choose but that isn't the case. I regret posting anything and it lets me see what kind of community we truly have. Every one on youtube put on rainbow sugar coated glasses but in the end the community isn't as upbeat as people say

I am just going by what I read in that, but you sound like the kind of person I'd want to be around, sadly I don't run that content. (This isn't my main account either, my main sits on Twintania)

[CKNovel]

All jokes aside, I don't see how anyone can look at a WHM using the proper essences, dealing over twice the amount of damage they normally do, and say "Oh that's just a small damage increase, not worth it".
Now imagine if the other 23 people are using decent essences. The difference between everyone using essences and everyone not using essences is astronomical.

That's why I only join "speedruns" which is basically 24 players doing the absolutely bare minimum.
AKA get potions and good actions such as Dervish and Lost font of Power for ranged, Lost Rend for melees... No one is actually a crazy speedrunner consuming the website-we-should-not-name or even using a third party software.
It's just essence and lost actions.

A run can take between 15 to 20 minutes and that was before new actions, Bozjan medals!
Now I wonder if Spirit of the Beast + Lost Assassination would be acceptable?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

That's why I only join "speedruns" which is basically 24 players doing the absolutely bare minimum.
AKA get potions and good actions such as Dervish and Lost font of Power for ranged, Lost Rend for melees... No one is actually a crazy speedrunner consuming the website-we-should-not-name or even using a third party software.
It's just essence and lost actions.

A run can take between 15 to 20 minutes and that was before new actions, Bozjan medals!
Now I wonder if Spirit of the Beast + Lost Assassination would be acceptable?

Personally I don’t even expect people to utilize lost actions anymore because apparently reading can be some sort of alien’ish proficiency to learn. As long as I see -any- kind of essence icon in their buff bar, I’m already content enough. Yes, even platebearer, guardian, savior, & veteran; the ones that absolutely contribute nothing in increasing damage. Anything beyond that is a boon.

Outside DRn though (I haven’t run them for quite a while) I have been seeing more and more players with essences. It’s refreshing to see.

[Diorik]

If everyone used essences, it would take less time to grind a handful of pures from cluster farming and then run DRN, than it currently takes just to run DRN because no one uses essences - plus I already spent the time grinding for pures so I could actually contribute, so now I've had twice as much of my time wasted.

That's why people are upset with you and your "not enough time" excuse. No one's asking you to go full try hard and bring Font/Banner. Pop a pure, use the other action that comes from the same fragments. Do that and enjoy 20 minute DRN runs.

[Goji1639]

The FF community is rather unfortunately plagued by morally defective, borderline-sociopathic losers. It's actually the very same lot of people that virtue signal constantly and try to uphold the supposed 'greatness' of the community (stay hydrated btw).

Projecting the illusion that we're all super nice and casting criticism in an extremely negative light is extremely beneficial to their grift, and has the wonderful side-effect of boosting their ego and public image. Somehow, this community has managed to frame calling people on their grift as a negative thing.

You aren't the victim for not using essences. You're a part of the problem, and you deserve any negative social pressure that comes your way.

I'd be willing to bet the people who lost it when someone mentioned a mental disorder are the same people who upvoted this string of pointless personal attacks. Now, let's continue debating which side is more toxic.

Fact still remains that essences are a luxury, not a necessity. People don't pentameld and show up with high level food/pots for normal raids either, even though I'm sure if you actually compared a worst and best case scenario it would be pretty dramatic. Fact is nobody owes you a bunch of extra time spent farming, or extra gil spent on external boosts. There is no "problem" to be part of; just a bunch of people who want to make demands in a DF group, instead of in a PF group like they're supposed to.

[Liam_Harper]

Buddy went from complaining about being harassed for not using essences in DR to accusing Liam of having a mental disorder for daring to have standards and telling him to "Go back to WoW".

Gotta love it.

It's great.

Especially when the post wasn't even "use Essences or gtfo" but more explaining how the "nasty elitists" had simply moved off into their own group to do their own thing without bothering anyone and would no longer be there to carry. Basically leaving the casual players alone, like they asked, and how much that actually hurts them.

I also like the usual "isn't the game supposed to be fun" and advocating playing the game the way you want, ...except the nasty elitist way. You aren't allowed to have fun playing that way. That's definitely not fun and you're lying if you say it is. Efficient runs are a job.

[MilkieTea]

I'd be willing to bet the people who lost it when someone mentioned a mental disorder are the same people who upvoted this string of pointless personal attacks. Now, let's continue debating which side is more toxic.

Fact still remains that essences are a luxury, not a necessity. People don't pentameld and show up with high level food/pots for normal raids either, even though I'm sure if you actually compared a worst and best case scenario it would be pretty dramatic. Fact is nobody owes you a bunch of extra time spent farming, or extra gil spent on external boosts. There is no "problem" to be part of; just a bunch of people who want to make demands in a DF group, instead of in a PF group like they're supposed to.

Just admit you want to make others lives harder and leave it at that.

[Theodric]

Each to their own, I guess.

I grew up on a farm, so I learned to put in hard work from an early age. A lot of the work proved to be repetitive. Yet everyone pitched in and did their part to make it less of a burden for everybody else.

I treat the game no differently. I try my best, I'm far from the most skilled player around but...it just wouldn't feel right to me to ignore something as game changing as essences when they make it easier for everybody involved.

I'll happily waste my own time when it comes to solo pursuits, but I just can't bring myself to waste other people's time when it comes to group engagements.

[MilkieTea]

Each to their own, I guess.

I grew up on a farm, so I learned to put in hard work from an early age. A lot of the work proved to be repetitive. Yet everyone pitched in and did their part to make it less of a burden for everybody else.

I treat the game no differently. I try my best, I'm far from the most skilled player around but...it just wouldn't feel right to me to ignore something as game changing as essences when they make it easier for everybody involved.

I'll happily waste my own time when it comes to solo pursuits, but I just can't bring myself to waste other people's time when it comes to group engagements.

This. I forget which one it is but there's an essence that gives you a DPS boost of like 60%, and it's not a rare drop either. I've got like 10 of them just from normal everyday gameplay. Ignoring such a boost not only wastes others time, it ends with you shooting yourself in the foot. Like those people that take the longer route of the wheelchair accessible ramp that goes AROUND THE STAIRS, rather than walk up the stairs - you're taking a longer route and doing yourself a disservice, as well as wasting the time of yourself and others who may be waiting on you to get to the top of the landing.

[Goji1639]

Just admit you want to make others lives harder and leave it at that.

Nah, but I'll admit I want to make my life easier.

No one here has made any kind of case for the idea that farming essences would actually save me time, because there is no case to be made. It would change virtually nothing about the duration of my DR runs.

The case you're all making is that I owe that extra expense and effort to some obscure, esoteric sense of obligation I have to "the big picture" in Bozja. I don't even like Bozja, so I find that whole premise hilarious.