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[ICountFrom0]

If nobody uses escenes or lost actions.
45 - 60 minutes.

If everybody does.

15 minutes.

... you could farm what you need, for a LOT of runs, in that half hour.

[MilkieTea]

Is it bad I have no bloody idea what ya'll are talking about with essences?

Pray tell me none of the stuff you just listed off is relevant to the msq because I want nothing to do with the endgame grind. Not til EW launches will I deal with a second endgame grind(still raiding elsewhere).

We're talking about Bozja content, which is endgame grind. (Can also use bozja to level other jobs from 70-80 without worrying about dungeons n stuff.)

[Elkanah]

Is it bad I have no bloody idea what ya'll are talking about with essences?

Pray tell me none of the stuff you just listed off is relevant to the msq because I want nothing to do with the endgame grind. Not til EW launches will I deal with a second endgame grind(still raiding elsewhere).

Since I'm mostly just reading in this thread-- I'll explain (so long as it's actually not sarcasm-- as it's hard to tell in a written form).

Essences are essentially items or actions (like additional spells/skills) that help increase DPS gain, buff HP, buff healing potency etc) while you're currently in (what's called "save the queen") zones. This is all of Bozjan Southern Front, as well as Zadnor (the newest patch BSF after 5.5 this past couple weeks). They're normally one time use while in the zone, but when you leave the zone itself (exit from the "duty" basically), it removes the buff until you use another item to put that essence back on (assuming you still have any left for that zone). There's multiple ways to go about getting them (such as killing specific monsters or bosses in the zones themselves), or buying them from the marketboard, getting lucky with RNG, and turning them in for lost actions/items/skills/spells to use in that zone via an npc (who stands next to the Lost essence box) to equip them.

Bozjan southern front (is and somewhat isn't) MSQ related. To access anything in BSF (bozjan southern front), you have to have completed the MSQ (up to a certain chapter), and finished all the Ivalice raids (stormblood raid series). This is the place where the current Shadowbringers relic starts.

If you're not one for relics on this patch (or glamour/additional armors to add to your collection), then you don't have to worry about everything in this thread lol

[BeautifulNerf]

Essense went from 2000g a pop on my datacenter to... 20k a pop... D: I didn't pay attention yesterday and spent 2mil gil on essence. D:

[Imora]

Since I'm mostly just reading in this thread-- I'll explain (so long as it's actually not sarcasm-- as it's hard to tell in a written form).

Essences are essentially items or actions (like additional spells/skills) that help increase DPS gain, buff HP, buff healing potency etc) while you're currently in (what's called "save the queen") zones. This is all of Bozjan Southern Front, as well as Zadnor (the newest patch BSF after 5.5 this past couple weeks). They're normally one time use while in the zone, but when you leave the zone itself (exit from the "duty" basically), it removes the buff until you use another item to put that essence back on (assuming you still have any left for that zone). There's multiple ways to go about getting them (such as killing specific monsters or bosses in the zones themselves), or buying them from the marketboard, getting lucky with RNG, and turning them in for lost actions/items/skills/spells to use in that zone via an npc (who stands next to the Lost essence box) to equip them.

Bozjan southern front (is and somewhat isn't) MSQ related. To access anything in BSF (bozjan southern front), you have to have completed the MSQ (up to a certain chapter), and finished all the Ivalice raids (stormblood raid series). This is the place where the current Shadowbringers relic starts.

If you're not one for relics on this patch (or glamour/additional armors to add to your collection), then you don't have to worry about everything in this thread lol

Nay, not sarcasm. I just came back to the game like two weeks ago and haven't gotten to endgame yet.

I know Bozja and what not is supposed to be part of the relic grind but had no idea what this essence and actions stuff is.

I never so much as unlocked the Ivalice raids. They weren't put out in the story on the way up.

Good to know it's not mandatory. While I'm bored af waiting for wow's next patch(raider here), I really just don't have time for two endgame grinds.

[Elkanah]

Nay, not sarcasm. I just came back to the game like two weeks ago and haven't gotten to endgame yet.

I know Bozja and what not is supposed to be part of the relic grind but had no idea what this essence and actions stuff is.

I never so much as unlocked the Ivalice raids. They weren't put out in the story on the way up.

Good to know it's not mandatory. While I'm bored af waiting for wow's next patch(raider here), I really just don't have time for two endgame grinds.

All of FFXIV's 24man raids are not part of the story. They're mostly just extra stuff for additional gear upgrades, as well as dropping a token at the end of each raid to allow you to upgrade your tome gear (during that patch). But generally not part of the story at all. Neither do the 8 man raids. Though (some) require you to complete X-Raid to be able to access the MSQ in ShB post 5.2 (or 5.3?), but otherwise-- mostly just side story/quest stuff and extra gear options to play around with (or glamour for fun)

[Imora]

All of FFXIV's 24man raids are not part of the story. They're mostly just extra stuff for additional gear upgrades, as well as dropping a token at the end of each raid to allow you to upgrade your tome gear (during that patch). But generally not part of the story at all. Neither do the 8 man raids. Though (some) require you to complete X-Raid to be able to access the MSQ in ShB post 5.2 (or 5.3?), but otherwise-- mostly just side story/quest stuff and extra gear options to play around with (or glamour for fun)

The crystal tower raids are part of the story now. They became mandatory a few patches ago.

I know because I had to painfully do WoD.

[Elkanah]

The crystal tower raids are part of the story now. They became mandatory a few patches ago.

I know because I had to painfully do WoD.

yeah, that's the only one. Otherwise, all the other raids in all the other series weren't required at any point. But my guess is (depending on how the devs took it), this might be a new requirement moving forward for future MSQ patches in 6.0 and onward. Complete crystal tower series -> access to MSQ in Shb. Clear Skypirates series (HW 24man raids) -> EW msq requirements, etc.

[Imora]

yeah, that's the only one. Otherwise, all the other raids in all the other series weren't required at any point. But my guess is (depending on how the devs took it), this might be a new requirement moving forward for future MSQ patches in 6.0 and onward. Complete crystal tower series -> access to MSQ in Shb. Clear Skypirates series (HW 24man raids) -> EW msq requirements, etc.

Man, I hope not.

Old queued content with people that never did it before and won't read/watch guides? Uggggh. I watch one before going into any dungeon or trial as it is, but most folks don't.

[Goji1639]

I’m trying to figure out how someone can’t have any essences, I’ve done well over 100 runs of DR, and have yet to run out of essences to use (haven’t farmed them). You literally get them by doing the content. (SF, DR, Zad)

When you’ve done enough runs under 30 min, you’ll understand why people push the essences, it’s minimal effort to maximize time. If you’re not using them, you’re griefing everyone else as far as I’m concerned.

I'm level 14 in Bozja at the moment. In all that time I've gotten exactly 4 skirmisher essences, which seem to be the only ones that are a DPS increase for DPS classes.

You get fragments for doing the content, not essences. Fragments are random turn ins that mostly give you garbage, with a shot at getting something useful. Farming them is for people who want to go all in on Bozja, not for people who want to get their relic and get the hell out.

If nobody uses escenes or lost actions.
45 - 60 minutes.

If everybody does.

15 minutes.

... you could farm what you need, for a LOT of runs, in that half hour.

So, if I farm essences that means EVERYONE will use them and I'll save half an hour?

No, I'll farm them and it won't change a thing about what everyone else is doing, so it'll just be a waste of my time. People don't like Bozja, they just want their relic, so this idea where everyone's farming to optimize their performance in it is just delusional.