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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Making your own group requires a lot of work, so that kind of defeats the purpose of doing the least amount of effort.

    Besides, we're allowed to queue without essences, so why wouldn't we? The "elitists" are the ones who can only reach their goals by forming their own groups, so they probably should.
    People are free to do what they want if the content allows it, but I do think that they should know that they could be doing more damage to contribute, or at the very least use an essence that increases HP or something. Something is better than nothing, especially when the content is scaled for essence use. That's my entire point at least. I won't harass anyone in game about it. Heck, I probably wouldn't say anything. But it's obvious what an essenceless run looks like compared to a run where everyone is decked out in some sort of essence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    I'll stay right where I am thanks. On my own feet, laughing at you being so upset that I dare not use an essence for every run. My last run I was the only one in my group with any healing. I'm the one that kept that whole party alive. Imagine the speed difference if they were all perma dead, essences or not. I believe you might be able to remove the thing lodged up ur arse if you go into a party finder like many I know do to get themselves those speedy runs.

    If you que for any duty in this game that is open to everyone, you will get people of varying skill level and commitment. If you cannot deal I suggest you get some friends and go run it with them. Because you can moan and act as superior as you want. It's not gonna change.
    You do you! Seriously. But you could, and should, be doing a lot more if you had an essence equipped. Again, that's my entire point. I feel that everyone should be contributing in this way. Makes life easier for everyone is all. I just never expect it, much to my own dismay.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 06-02-2021 at 10:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    People are free to do what they want if the content allows it, but I do think that they should know that they could be doing more damage to contribute, or at the very least use an essence that increases HP or something. Something is better than nothing, especially when the content is scaled for essence use. That's my entire point at least. I won't harass anyone in game about it. Heck, I probably wouldn't say anything. But it's obvious what an essenceless run looks like compared to a run where everyone is decked out in some sort of essence.
    Nothing wrong with informing, and I am aware that most of the raid using essences vs. not using essences makes a real difference. 1 person doesn't, though, especially if that person is a DPS, because skirmisher isn't the massive DPS increase that the tank and healer essences are.

    What you should try to understand, though, is a lot of people are essentially doing Bozja because it's holding their relic hostage. Expecting real commitment is unrealistic; it may just be enough that the relic is keeping this content alive for the people who like it, even if it's doing so by forcing the non-committed to grit their teeth and bear whatever minimum they have to suffer through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Nothing wrong with informing, and I am aware that most of the raid using essences vs. not using essences makes a real difference. 1 person doesn't, though, especially if that person is a DPS, because skirmisher isn't the massive DPS increase that the tank and healer essences are.

    What you should try to understand, though, is a lot of people are essentially doing Bozja because it's holding their relic hostage. Expecting real commitment is unrealistic; it may just be enough that the relic is keeping this content alive for the people who like it, even if it's doing so by forcing the non-committed to grit their teeth and bear whatever minimum they have to suffer through.
    Yes, and when players largely aren't using essences in the majority of DR runs, the potential grind becomes around 15 hours PER RELIC, for this step alone! As opposed to what could be half that amount of time! I keep getting burned out trying to do DR for the rest of my relics, because I can barely get 3 or 4 runs PER NIGHT. It'll take up most of my playtime (the amount I can bear of DR), for that little amount of runs! I just assume other players who are going through the same grind would want to shorten that experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yes, and when players largely aren't using essences in the majority of DR runs, the potential grind becomes around 15 hours PER RELIC, for this step alone! As opposed to what could be half that amount of time! I keep getting burned out trying to do DR for the rest of my relics, because I can barely get 3 or 4 runs PER NIGHT. It'll take up most of my playtime (the amount I can bear of DR), for that little amount of runs! I just assume other players who are going through the same grind would want to shorten that experience.
    Here it becomes a macro issue. You seem like the type who would farm essences in order to bring 100% every time, because you're a good little boyscout. So, you farm away, essence up every time and look at where you are; you can still BARELY get a few runs a night because your specific contribution didn't really matter.

    Now maybe the fact that you weren't "part of the problem" keeps you warm through that wasted effort, but I don't really care about "the principle of the thing." I'm not wasting more time in Bozja, especially when I know it won't realistically make a difference for me on a micro scale. I'm in this for my relic, and so is most everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Nothing wrong with informing, and I am aware that most of the raid using essences vs. not using essences makes a real difference. 1 person doesn't, though, especially if that person is a DPS, because skirmisher isn't the massive DPS increase that the tank and healer essences are.

    What you should try to understand, though, is a lot of people are essentially doing Bozja because it's holding their relic hostage. Expecting real commitment is unrealistic; it may just be enough that the relic is keeping this content alive for the people who like it, even if it's doing so by forcing the non-committed to grit their teeth and bear whatever minimum they have to suffer through.
    I never expect it. Doesn't stop me from feeling a certain way though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.