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[MilkieTea]

If you dont want to farm essences, get a group together of people who don’t want to farm essences and run DR with that group.

Otherwise, whack a few plants for 20 minutes. Or go to the marketboard and buy a stack of forgotten mems.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

If you dont want to farm essences, get a group together of people who don’t want to farm essences and run DR with that group.

Otherwise, whack a few plants for 20 minutes. Or go to the marketboard and buy a stack of forgotten mems.

Why would we do that when we can simply hit que? It's no inconvenience for us. You have the problem, it's yours to solve not others.

[Vahlnir]

Why would we do that when we can simply hit que? It's no inconvenience for us. You have the problem, it's yours to solve not others.

Essences help make DR go faster. A slow DR run is a problem for everyone involved, especially when everyone has to do a minimum of 15 to complete their relics, or a lot more than that if someone plans to complete more than one. It's on everyone to put in the effort, though sadly there's a lot of players like yourself who don't agree.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Essences help make DR go faster. A slow DR run is a problem for everyone involved, especially when everyone has to do a minimum of 15 to complete their relics, or a lot more than that if someone plans to complete more than one. It's on everyone to put in the effort, though sadly there's a lot of players like yourself who don't agree.

No, it's not a problem for everyone involved. I have said already I am chill and don't mind at all if it takes 20mins or 40mins. So again, if you want to speed run... Go into the many party finders that provide just that instead of bitching? You being in a rush is not my problem, I owe you nothing. You wanna do all 15 asap, cool. I am happy chilling at my own pace. It's on everyone to kill the bosses, that's it, anything else is your personal fee fees. If you don't have the time for a 40min run I suggest not queing the normal way and joining the speed runners.

I have said before, I pot when I have them or if I feel like try harding my dps for funsies. But if I wanna do a run where I am chill and listening to some music or half watching some anime? That's my prerogative to do so

[Nethereal]

If you dont want to farm essences, get a group together of people who don’t want to farm essences and run DR with that group.

Otherwise, whack a few plants for 20 minutes. Or go to the marketboard and buy a stack of forgotten mems.

As much as I like to bash people for not using essences as the next person this is a fallacy.

Using essence requires more effort than to not use essence this means that the outliers based on generalization are actually the people using essence, why should the majority adjust to the minority?
To be fair to the majority is to be unfair to the minority and vice versa.
This means that unless the majority group is actively harming the minority, by right of majority you have to adjust to them.

Doesn't mean you can't call them on their bs though.

[SturmChurro]

If you dont want to farm essences, get a group together of people who don’t want to farm essences and run DR with that group.

Otherwise, whack a few plants for 20 minutes. Or go to the marketboard and buy a stack of forgotten mems.

Right? Why are players who want to play optimally (rather adequately) called "elitist" frequently, and told to form their own groups? How about people who are choosing to put in the least amount of effort, join their own groups instead?!

[Vahlnir]

Right? Why are players who want to play optimally (rather adequately) called "elitist" frequently, and told to form their own groups? How about people who are choosing to put in the least amount of effort, join their own groups instead?!

But we're "elitists", our opinions don't matter. Twelve have mercy on those of us who happen to be mentors as well.

[Goji1639]

Right? Why are players who want to play optimally (rather adequately) called "elitist" frequently, and told to form their own groups? How about people who are choosing to put in the least amount of effort, join their own groups instead?!

Making your own group requires a lot of work, so that kind of defeats the purpose of doing the least amount of effort.

Besides, we're allowed to queue without essences, so why wouldn't we? The "elitists" are the ones who can only reach their goals by forming their own groups, so they probably should.

[Vahlnir]

Making your own group requires a lot of work, so that kind of defeats the purpose of doing the least amount of effort.

Besides, we're allowed to queue without essences, so why wouldn't we? The "elitists" are the ones who can only reach their goals by forming their own groups, so they probably should.

People are free to do what they want if the content allows it, but I do think that they should know that they could be doing more damage to contribute, or at the very least use an essence that increases HP or something. Something is better than nothing, especially when the content is scaled for essence use. That's my entire point at least. I won't harass anyone in game about it. Heck, I probably wouldn't say anything. But it's obvious what an essenceless run looks like compared to a run where everyone is decked out in some sort of essence.

I'll stay right where I am thanks. On my own feet, laughing at you being so upset that I dare not use an essence for every run. My last run I was the only one in my group with any healing. I'm the one that kept that whole party alive. Imagine the speed difference if they were all perma dead, essences or not. I believe you might be able to remove the thing lodged up ur arse if you go into a party finder like many I know do to get themselves those speedy runs.

If you que for any duty in this game that is open to everyone, you will get people of varying skill level and commitment. If you cannot deal I suggest you get some friends and go run it with them. Because you can moan and act as superior as you want. It's not gonna change.

You do you! Seriously. But you could, and should, be doing a lot more if you had an essence equipped. Again, that's my entire point. I feel that everyone should be contributing in this way. Makes life easier for everyone is all. I just never expect it, much to my own dismay.

[Goji1639]

People are free to do what they want if the content allows it, but I do think that they should know that they could be doing more damage to contribute, or at the very least use an essence that increases HP or something. Something is better than nothing, especially when the content is scaled for essence use. That's my entire point at least. I won't harass anyone in game about it. Heck, I probably wouldn't say anything. But it's obvious what an essenceless run looks like compared to a run where everyone is decked out in some sort of essence.

Nothing wrong with informing, and I am aware that most of the raid using essences vs. not using essences makes a real difference. 1 person doesn't, though, especially if that person is a DPS, because skirmisher isn't the massive DPS increase that the tank and healer essences are.

What you should try to understand, though, is a lot of people are essentially doing Bozja because it's holding their relic hostage. Expecting real commitment is unrealistic; it may just be enough that the relic is keeping this content alive for the people who like it, even if it's doing so by forcing the non-committed to grit their teeth and bear whatever minimum they have to suffer through.