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    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Nothing? Sorry didn't realise me using all my combos etc counted as nothing? I dance partner, dot w/e depending which job I choose to go in as. I contribute. Just because it's not enough for YOU does not mean it is nothing. You have avenues available to you to get fast clears, if u won't take the initiative to take part in those things, that's a you problem. It's not a 14 problem, it's a "You don't play how I find acceptable" problem Aka a YOU problem. Get over it sweets.
    Then please do us a favor and climb down off our backs and use your own feet to walk. I believe you can do it if you try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Then please do us a favor and climb down off our backs and use your own feet to walk. I believe you can do it if you try.
    I'll stay right where I am thanks. On my own feet, laughing at you being so upset that I dare not use an essence for every run. My last run I was the only one in my group with any healing. I'm the one that kept that whole party alive. Imagine the speed difference if they were all perma dead, essences or not. I believe you might be able to remove the thing lodged up ur arse if you go into a party finder like many I know do to get themselves those speedy runs.

    If you que for any duty in this game that is open to everyone, you will get people of varying skill level and commitment. If you cannot deal I suggest you get some friends and go run it with them. Because you can moan and act as superior as you want. It's not gonna change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    I'll stay right where I am thanks. On my own feet, laughing at you being so upset that I dare not use an essence for every run. My last run I was the only one in my group with any healing. I'm the one that kept that whole party alive. Imagine the speed difference if they were all perma dead, essences or not. I believe you might be able to remove the thing lodged up ur arse if you go into a party finder like many I know do to get themselves those speedy runs.

    If you que for any duty in this game that is open to everyone, you will get people of varying skill level and commitment. If you cannot deal I suggest you get some friends and go run it with them. Because you can moan and act as superior as you want. It's not gonna change.
    This is why I envy the JP datacenters, as they seems to have some sense of what the word "coop" and "others people times". NA...NA is a dumpster fire. I am glad they don't listen to us at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    This is why I envy the JP datacenters, as they seems to have some sense of what the word "coop" and "others people times". NA...NA is a dumpster fire. I am glad they don't listen to us at times.
    Yes because all who post here are from NA. Me healing and keeping my party alive to even DPS is "coop" Yknow that in coop there is also the fact that not every plays the same? Yoshi P said himself that players should take their time with this content and not burn themselves out. This is not content for people looking to be 100%ing dps all the time. It's for everyone. And I think JP players would understand that instead of belligerently demanding a total stranger play how they want because it suits them xD
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    I'd feel very guilty if I signed up to a duty and didn't at least try to be productive and prepared. I play single player games when I'm in the mood to just mess around because I don't want to inconvenience other players/waste their time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd feel very guilty if I signed up to a duty and didn't at least try to be productive and prepared. I play single player games when I'm in the mood to just mess around because I don't want to inconvenience other players/waste their time.
    Agreed. I may not be the best but I can't imagine going into a duty with other people and just not trying, and if that includes having a few items to push things along then that's fine. I don't get bothered by a run taking longer than average but I'll do my best to ensure it's not because of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Here it becomes a macro issue. You seem like the type who would farm essences in order to bring 100% every time, because you're a good little boyscout. So, you farm away, essence up every time and look at where you are; you can still BARELY get a few runs a night because your specific contribution didn't really matter.

    Now maybe the fact that you weren't "part of the problem" keeps you warm through that wasted effort, but I don't really care about "the principle of the thing." I'm not wasting more time in Bozja, especially when I know it won't realistically make a difference for me on a micro scale. I'm in this for my relic, and so is most everyone else.
    Prime example of the parasitism that plagues this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Prime example of the parasitism that plagues this game.
    Why are you on the forums whining when you should be killing trash in Bozja so you can carry me through DR. Get back to work.
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    For that matter, a healer in DR should be using profane, and the healing should be coming from the DPS in the form of lost cures. Just my thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    I will literally never understand someone who complains about others not making enough effort. But simultaneously will not put in the effort themselves to get what they want, ie join pf. Oh the irony! Everyone else put more effort in because I want to be able to hit que and have every person in that instance using all essences at all times or I am not satisfied!! I shouldn't have to join a PF specifically made for speed runs! YOU should do what I want because I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT IN THE EFFORT. Just... lol

    If we are enjoying ourselves it is not a waste of our time. If you find that you are not enjoying yourself, maybe put in the effort to make it enjoyable?
    Did the 23 other players in the instance agree that no essences were fine? Furthermore, your logic can be turned on you as should pf a no essence run because you want to "chill" and find 23 likeminded players.
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