FF14 community

[hobostew]

It should never have been tuned under the assumption people were going to use essences but since it is you should go ahead and use essences.

On the other hand it doesn't help as much as people think given that % increase to someone's low damage is not exactly adding a lot.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Hello. Figure this be a wasted vent and useless but feel like the community isn't all that is cracked up to be. I feel like at least half the community wants other players to become perfect and be 150% better. I ran a DR with complete randoms and all I ever hear is get essences use essences etc. Have you ever thought maybe I don't have time to grind for fragments and hope that RNG gives me the essence I need?

Maybe tell the devs that the whole thing is stupid to rely on essence potions to buff up our DPS. Maybe they should of let our gear dictate our damage. I just feel like this game went from being fun to almost a job on how we have to strive for perfection or don't play.

I know it falls on deaf ears a few years ago as I was learning had a person use a parser to make fun of me in a raid back in SB. Of course nothing happened as always. People just turn a blind eye.

So just say you don't have them and cba grinding for them. I use them when I have them. And I am not all that bothered about the fights going as fast as possible, there are party finder groups to run full essence anyway. You can literally report people if they are harassing you about doing anything in this game. If it bugs you enough, report them. SE don't do nothing about it, have u seen how many "idk why I am in jail" posts there have been? They jus wont tell you if they have actioned an account for privacy reasons. If you like a more chill playstyle you do you. 99% of people I meet in this game are perfectly nice and the one's that are not I report for whatever shenanigans they are up to.

That being said, each individual person suggesting to use an essence is not necessarily in malice. I hated Eureka and I didn't know which essences to use for Bozja at first, I wouldn't use them because I thought like a pot they would have a timer. I was informed otherwise so I use em more often now but I am saving some for savage. You might get sick of hearing the same stuff but remember these people are not trying to make u an elite most likely, they are just trying to help YOU and themselves.

[Puremallace]

So the thing about Bozdja, DR and Zadnor is you have to remember who the content is designed for. So just like Ultimates are designed for a more hardcore raid focused min/maxer DR is also designed for that audience.

There is nothing that actually requires essenses or grinding but it does cut off a large amount of time because they content is designed for people who like to grind something and see a big power gain. That is the entire point of it.

Outside of a glamour most will use the weapon from the Weapon Extreme to get that max ilvl reward. The community is there but yes I agree it falls apart quickly when randoms all meet up in content designed to be optimized but that applies to any raid in FF14.

[MilkieTea]

If you dont want to farm essences, get a group together of people who don’t want to farm essences and run DR with that group.

Otherwise, whack a few plants for 20 minutes. Or go to the marketboard and buy a stack of forgotten mems.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

If you dont want to farm essences, get a group together of people who don’t want to farm essences and run DR with that group.

Otherwise, whack a few plants for 20 minutes. Or go to the marketboard and buy a stack of forgotten mems.

Why would we do that when we can simply hit que? It's no inconvenience for us. You have the problem, it's yours to solve not others.

[Vahlnir]

Why would we do that when we can simply hit que? It's no inconvenience for us. You have the problem, it's yours to solve not others.

Essences help make DR go faster. A slow DR run is a problem for everyone involved, especially when everyone has to do a minimum of 15 to complete their relics, or a lot more than that if someone plans to complete more than one. It's on everyone to put in the effort, though sadly there's a lot of players like yourself who don't agree.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Essences help make DR go faster. A slow DR run is a problem for everyone involved, especially when everyone has to do a minimum of 15 to complete their relics, or a lot more than that if someone plans to complete more than one. It's on everyone to put in the effort, though sadly there's a lot of players like yourself who don't agree.

No, it's not a problem for everyone involved. I have said already I am chill and don't mind at all if it takes 20mins or 40mins. So again, if you want to speed run... Go into the many party finders that provide just that instead of bitching? You being in a rush is not my problem, I owe you nothing. You wanna do all 15 asap, cool. I am happy chilling at my own pace. It's on everyone to kill the bosses, that's it, anything else is your personal fee fees. If you don't have the time for a 40min run I suggest not queing the normal way and joining the speed runners.

I have said before, I pot when I have them or if I feel like try harding my dps for funsies. But if I wanna do a run where I am chill and listening to some music or half watching some anime? That's my prerogative to do so

[Nethereal]

If you dont want to farm essences, get a group together of people who don’t want to farm essences and run DR with that group.

Otherwise, whack a few plants for 20 minutes. Or go to the marketboard and buy a stack of forgotten mems.

As much as I like to bash people for not using essences as the next person this is a fallacy.

Using essence requires more effort than to not use essence this means that the outliers based on generalization are actually the people using essence, why should the majority adjust to the minority?
To be fair to the majority is to be unfair to the minority and vice versa.
This means that unless the majority group is actively harming the minority, by right of majority you have to adjust to them.

Doesn't mean you can't call them on their bs though.

[SturmChurro]

If you dont want to farm essences, get a group together of people who don’t want to farm essences and run DR with that group.

Otherwise, whack a few plants for 20 minutes. Or go to the marketboard and buy a stack of forgotten mems.

Right? Why are players who want to play optimally (rather adequately) called "elitist" frequently, and told to form their own groups? How about people who are choosing to put in the least amount of effort, join their own groups instead?!

[Vahlnir]

Right? Why are players who want to play optimally (rather adequately) called "elitist" frequently, and told to form their own groups? How about people who are choosing to put in the least amount of effort, join their own groups instead?!

But we're "elitists", our opinions don't matter. Twelve have mercy on those of us who happen to be mentors as well.