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[Caurcas]

A couple of players doing significantly more dps than everyone else does greatly shorten a run. And thats only a couple, if a party is doing things correctly the difference is even more significant. If all 24 are, well that's a 15 minute run.

[MilkieTea]

To what did I owe these 7 new pages of bad choices & regrets since I left it?



They already stated that they’re simply not going to bother with it. Even LittleImp had linked them to a short video of how -easy- to farm those frags in other past thread & they remain where they are.

Let them be... lol /shrug

I just wish they’d admit that they’re just too lazy and entitled to spend 15 minutes farming fragments of skill right outside the bozja gate. I’m a solo player. I don’t grab packs of mobs and aoe them to death. I kill maybe 5 or 6, get like 4 frags of skill, and I’m done. And it STILL is enough for me to make an impact in CEs, fates, etc. I havent even TOUCHED DR and I know that by the time I do (since Im rank 11 right now) I’ll have more than enough to make even a small impact. I regularly have essence of the martialist on hand - a 60% Damage boost? sign me up!

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[...]I’m a solo player. I don’t grab packs of mobs and aoe them to death. I kill maybe 5 or 6, get like 4 frags of skill, and I’m done. And it STILL is enough for me to make an impact in CEs, fates, etc. I havent even TOUCHED DR and I know that by the time I do (since Im rank 11 right now) I’ll have more than enough to make even a small impact. I regularly have essence of the martialist on hand - a 60% Damage boost? sign me up!

That's why to me, it's mind boggling how those players can be when it comes to bringing the bare minimum to the table in group contents. Cultural difference? Probably, but I'd rather not question that further. In my case, I went big the first time I had the motivation to farm for those frags, evidently done with 2 of my friend & randoms that joins our farming group. Across all farming sessions, I think it's safe to say I've invested about 6 (six) hours in total from different days. The result? Now I'm running more than enough essences AND lost actions to last me all relics I had about 160+ counts of each essences except deep and pure essences by the time I run out of motivation, minus 5-10 from some frags I got on the way, and this is from several months ago. Up till now, I still yet to burn half of what I've farmed. A total of six hours translated into 'god mode' that lasts for months? Yass plss!

Do I expect another player to invest same amount of effort like that? Certainly no. Not everybody should do that, (evidently) I just suffer from that 'x99 Elixir Syndrome'. And yet it's easy to guess how much a player can make within 15m - 30m of farming plus how far it can benefit themselves--and indirectly, to players grouped with them.

[MilkieTea]

That's why to me, it's mind boggling how those players can be when it comes to bringing the bare minimum to the table in group contents. Cultural difference? Probably, but I'd rather not question that further. In my case, I went big the first time I had the motivation to farm for those frags, evidently done with 2 of my friend & randoms that joins our farming group. Across all farming sessions, I think it's safe to say I've invested about 6 (six) hours in total from different days. The result? Now I'm running more than enough essences AND lost actions to last me all relics I had about 160+ counts of each essences except deep and pure essences by the time I run out of motivation, minus 5-10 from some frags I got on the way, and this is from several months ago. Up till now, I still yet to burn half of what I've farmed. A total of six hours translated into 'god mode' that lasts for months? Yass plss!

Do I expect another player to invest same amount of effort like that? Certainly no. Not everybody should do that, (evidently) I just suffer from that 'x99 Elixir Syndrome'. And yet it's easy to guess how much a player can make within 15m - 30m of farming plus how far it can benefit themselves--and indirectly, to players grouped with them.

Yep! It's a small amount of effort for a large amount of gain. Just getting a few frags at a time, maybe while waiting for CEs to pop, is more than enough. Heck, join a big party (just shouting "LFG fates!" is enough for me) and you'll be raking in frags, memories, etc, just from the other players around you doing what you're doing!

[Nothv13]

Yep! It's a small amount of effort for a large amount of gain. Just getting a few frags at a time, maybe while waiting for CEs to pop, is more than enough. Heck, join a big party (just shouting "LFG fates!" is enough for me) and you'll be raking in frags, memories, etc, just from the other players around you doing what you're doing!

Doesn't matter how many frags you get and how often you use essences and other things. Your input accounts for so little that if only 2-3 others (the typical for non PF groups) use such, you're not getting much difference in clear times so why even bother.

[Theodric]

The boost to damage from essences isn't insignificant, though. Even if only a couple of players in a raid are using essences...if those players stay alive, then the extra damage they're dishing out does chip away at the time it takes to complete the content in question.

Some people using them is better than none, though the majority having them in play would be the ideal situation. I've seen that a couple of times now and the bosses absolutely melted.

I suppose it's just strange to me. A lot of the people who refuse to use essences seem to absolutely loathe the content in question and see it as a chore that, for some reason, they can't bring themselves to avoid engaging with...but then they're also not willing to work with other players to make it less tiresome for all involved.

[Aeia]

Unga Bunga essence 2 hard 2 obtain me go afk

Spending 2 minutes getting 6 clusters (enough to buy two of the DR specific fragments, which on average will get you one skill + one DR potion) can make you do as much dps as 4-5 people who use nothing. Stop being monkey and evolve.

[Rinhi]

Unga Bunga essence 2 hard 2 obtain me go afk

Spending 2 minutes getting 6 clusters (enough to buy two of the DR specific fragments, which on average will get you one skill + one DR potion) can make you do as much dps as 4-5 people who use nothing. Stop being monkey and evolve.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

Unga Bunga essence 2 hard 2 obtain me go afk

Spending 2 minutes getting 6 clusters (enough to buy two of the DR specific fragments, which on average will get you one skill + one DR potion) can make you do as much dps as 4-5 people who use nothing. Stop being monkey and evolve.

They'll get rewarded regardless = minimum effort. Sums up team work in games.