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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    the sheer entitlement of certain people about imposing their playstyle - or lack thereof - onto others and being proud of it is astounding
    "babyrage" and whatnot, like, aren't YOU the one whining for several posts now because people call you what you are; lazy and selfish and unwilling to even put in a modicum of the teeny tiniest bit of effort that is pressing a button to get activate the essence?
    quoting myself here, but;
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    I've spent about 7ish minutes outside the first bozja gate and got around 50 fragments of skill that gave me enough aetherweavers and martialists to do another relic to my current one, with another 7 minutes just outside the 2nd gate I could get enough awakening fragments to get enough skirmishers, ordaineds, irregulars and profanes that are equally useful
    heck, it takes even less than 5 (five/fünf/cinco/cinq/cinque) minutes if you can play the class you're using somewhat well, which I don't! and I still got tonnes of essences from about 12 (t w e l v e) minutes of """"work"""" that will last me for a long time
    you're just f-ing lazy and want to be pat on the back of it, don't deny it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    the sheer entitlement of certain people about imposing their playstyle - or lack thereof - onto others and being proud of it is astounding
    "babyrage" and whatnot, like, aren't YOU the one whining for several posts now because people call you what you are; lazy and selfish and unwilling to even put in a modicum of the teeny tiniest bit of effort that is pressing a button to get activate the essence?
    quoting myself here, but;

    heck, it takes even less than 5 (five/fünf/cinco/cinq/cinque) minutes if you can play the class you're using somewhat well, which I don't! and I still got tonnes of essences from about 12 (t w e l v e) minutes of """"work"""" that will last me for a long time
    you're just f-ing lazy and want to be pat on the back of it, don't deny it
    If you just join a duty and play as you like, you're not "imposing" a thing. On the other hand saying to people they must use an essence IS imposing. I myself have not been whining because anyone has called me lazy, selfish or unwilling. Call me whatever you want, doesn't matter to me I will still play the same. As I have said before you will get no apology from me

    I could not care less about a pat on the back from you or any other random in this thread. Don't attribute where you get your self worth from to me or others. Good for you you went and farmed, aren't you such an angel! Here have your pat on the back.

    During my cluster farm I ended up with a couple hundred fragments of different varieties, the vast majority of which were actions and not essences. And even then, plenty are for tanks and I don't tend to tank that often for casual content. So yes, you're babyraging at others for not doing what you want. I am just pointing out you are basically screaming into the void for all the good it will do you. Nobody is changing for you.
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    I have not given this game the time of day since arr was new. what are essences and why are they required? I'm trying to move away from wow and wow classic here but would hate to know they have the equivalent of world quests for rep/power/required consumables here as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixa View Post
    I have not given this game the time of day since arr was new. what are essences and why are they required? I'm trying to move away from wow and wow classic here but would hate to know they have the equivalent of world quests for rep/power/required consumables here as well.
    They're optional consumables in optional content.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    They're optional consumables in optional content.
    So is food, but people will likely be displeased by people not fooding in appropriate content, and the impact food has on our DPS doesn't even begin to compare to the impact essences have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Ahaha yeah lemme just sell my large house to benefit 20 randoms.. hmm no? I worked for the gil and the house. You put no value in what a house can give to someone, but a house can be a centre for a community, for many it is the whole reason that keeps them subbed.
    Which is the most incredibly egotistical, expecting a total stranger to give up something important to them which they enjoy for YOU or letting them enjoy a game and you mind your own business? HMMMM hard choice that one.
    bruh... you don't need 100mil+ to buy essences... no one is asking you to sell your house... we're asking to spend either a few minutes or a few pennies to save a lot of time for 24 people lmfao

    Also as soon as you get matched with them, the way you play affects them and therefore becomes their business as well.
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    Last edited by ZedxKayn; 06-04-2021 at 09:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    to save a lot of time for 24 people
    This isn't a good argument. ONE PERSON in the run using an essence doesn't "save a lot of time." You people keep taking the difference between EVERYONE using an essence and NO ONE using an essence, then applying it to a situation where ONE PERSON is saying they aren't using essences.

    Me popping an essence isn't the difference between a 45 minute run and a 20 minute run, it's the difference between a 45 minute run and maybe a 43 minute run. It's not going to make a difference that anyone in the run will really care about, but the time I spend farming or the gil I spend on the market board will make a difference to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    This isn't a good argument. ONE PERSON in the run using an essence doesn't "save a lot of time." You people keep taking the difference between EVERYONE using an essence and NO ONE using an essence, then applying it to a situation where ONE PERSON is saying they aren't using essences.

    Me popping an essence isn't the difference between a 45 minute run and a 25 minute run, it's the difference between a 45 minute run and maybe a 42 minute run. It's not going to make a difference that anyone in the run will really care about, but the time I spend farming or the gil I spend on the market board will make a difference to me.
    ... And it's because people not using essence chose to remain a part of the problem that things don't change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    SE, can we get a datacenter in NA that has a barrier for entry? I don't want to be on Aether anymore.
    Can't speak for Primal but Crystal is even worse.

    You'd have to play on JP Datacenters, and avoid Elemental specifically, to have a better experience. And even then it's not fool-proof, just that they're raised in a culture of respecting other people's time so there are far less openly entitled players there in my exp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Can't speak for Primal but Crystal is even worse.

    You'd have to play on JP Datacenters, and avoid Elemental specifically, to have a better experience. And even then it's not fool-proof, just that they're raised in a culture of respecting other people's time so there are far less openly entitled players there in my exp.
    Yeah you go to Aether to get away from Crystal. That's its own beast though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
    Quote Originally Posted by Someone 2
    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    To what did I owe these 7 new pages of bad choices & regrets since I left it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    The fact you think it's going to cost you "hours" to get clusters is beyond me and makes me believe you're truly ignorant on how to get them. All the best to you though.
    They already stated that they’re simply not going to bother with it. Even LittleImp had linked them to a short video of how -easy- to farm those frags in other past thread & they remain where they are.

    Let them be... lol /shrug
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