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    It's seriously not hard or extreme to expect some kind of essence in DR.. I brought 2 of my FC members into Bozja way back.. during the time they were doing the opening quests in the zone me an another member were killing the fish and plants outside of the camp.. they had 50+ fragments before they were even asked to get their first one.. and one of them is a cutscene skipper (the horror I know.)

    Seeing that one person say the 20% isn't good enough to matter on DPS is a bold face lie.. the 80% and 60% that tanks an healers get is there to make us meet up with your damage to be able to solo.. let me say it again.. WE MEET YOUR DAMAGE with these buffs.. if you'd use a 20% or whatever you'd be even stronger thrn the healer/tanks.. but it's a nice and lazy excuse for those who want to be lazy and sandbag their team in DR runs.. heck just use the tanking one from the starting zone mobs.. your healers will tank you when it dosnt cost 3 oGCDs to fully heal the group every AoE..
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    I'm not sure this post is anything other then you being mad because you can't just play the way you want to. People want you to use essences so that you have the whole group benefit from.yoy having more dps (or in some cases something else like MP). You respect everyone else when you play with other people.
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    If nobody uses escenes or lost actions.
    45 - 60 minutes.

    If everybody does.

    15 minutes.

    ... you could farm what you need, for a LOT of runs, in that half hour.
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    Essense went from 2000g a pop on my datacenter to... 20k a pop... D: I didn't pay attention yesterday and spent 2mil gil on essence. D:
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    That's not demanding 150%. That's not even demanding 100%.

    That's demanding 60% at best, and you delivering half of it by not doing the bare minimum of prep.

    Also people who don't like the content should not be doing the content. Period. "You just want the relic" isn't a pass to drag other people down with intentionally bad setup.
    Rewards exist to give players who like doing the content to have a prize in the end.

    You won't see me complaining about ocean fishing grind because I don't like the feature and don't actively pursue it. I'm also not going to be doing savage content I'm unprepared for and complain people don't like how I play.
    I know I'm not entitled to every reward in this game. Wish the rest of the playerbase did.
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    Last edited by ReynTime; 06-02-2021 at 11:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    That's not demanding 150%. That's not even demanding 100%.

    That's demanding 60% at best, and you delivering half of it by not doing the bare minimum of prep.

    Also people who don't like the content should not be doing the content. Period. "You just want the relic" isn't a pass to drag other people down with intentionally bad setup.
    You won't see me complaining about ocean fishing grind because I don't like the feature and don't actively pursue it. I'm also not going to be doing savage content I'm unprepared for and complain people don't like how I play.
    I know I'm not entitled to every reward in this game. Wish the rest of the playerbase did.
    If you actually like Bozja then this probably isn't a smart position to take. The only reason that pile of crap is still breathing is that most people really look forward to the relic, and will endure almost anything to get it.

    The extra preparation isn't necessary to clear the content; it's a luxury. No one's going to spend more time in Bozja than they have to for something that isn't necessary. I'll queue up, play my class to the best of my ability and do mechanics, but I won't be spending even a second longer in Bozja than what's required of me. Your "demands" don't matter. Honestly, you should be thankful that the relic hunters are keeping the place alive for you, even if they're not optimizing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    If you actually like Bozja then this probably isn't a smart position to take. The only reason that pile of crap is still breathing is that most people really look forward to the relic, and will endure almost anything to get it.

    The extra preparation isn't necessary to clear the content; it's a luxury. No one's going to spend more time in Bozja than they have to for something that isn't necessary. I'll queue up, play my class to the best of my ability and do mechanics, but I won't be spending even a second longer in Bozja than what's required of me. Your "demands" don't matter. Honestly, you should be thankful that the relic hunters are keeping the place alive for you, even if they're not optimizing.
    This is just contradictory - you wont use essences (that don't give you a 20% boost, but a 60% boost at minimum if you use the correct ones) to make the run go even a tiny bit faster, because you dont want to take longer than necessary... but by not using essences, youre MAKING the run take longer than necessary. Yes, you, personally. Your input directly helps to speed things along - if 23 others dont use essences that means that your 1/24th input will speed things along. and if 23 others USE essences, then your 1/24th input will slow things down.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    This is just contradictory - you wont use essences (that don't give you a 20% boost, but a 60% boost at minimum if you use the correct ones) to make the run go even a tiny bit faster, because you dont want to take longer than necessary... but by not using essences, youre MAKING the run take longer than necessary. Yes, you, personally. Your input directly helps to speed things along - if 23 others dont use essences that means that your 1/24th input will speed things along. and if 23 others USE essences, then your 1/24th input will slow things down.
    I honestly don't mind DR, it's the Bozja overworld that's terrible and I will not spend any extra time in. DR taking a bit longer doesn't bother me too much.

    Either way, you're wrong. Farming enough essences could take hours, whereas me, as a single player, using essences won't have a significant impact on DR's duration at all; especially as a DPS class. It's faster for ME to not bother with essences if I don't already have them; that's just reality.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 06-02-2021 at 11:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I honestly don't mind DR, it's the Bozja overworld that's terrible and I will not spend any extra time in. DR taking a bit longer doesn't bother me too much.

    Either way, you're wrong. Farming enough essences could take hours, whereas me, as a single player, using essences won't have a significant impact on DR's duration at all; especially as a DPS class. It's faster for ME to not bother with essences if I don't have them; that's just reality.
    If only you could buy essences on the MB for pennies. :/
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    Can't wait for next thread about a toxic casual complaining about people asking them to use food.

    You don't need the big boy essences. Basic one will do.
    I have a small stack of 50 basic Lifesteal potions and since it works with Lost Assassination, it's far enough to do the job for Castrum, Dalriada or even DR.

    You can also sell the one you don't use and buy the one you actually need.

    Just adopt the mentality that others does a bare minimum preparations and you should at least do the same, not less. Don't be the handicap, become a strong element of the team they can rely on.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 06-02-2021 at 11:34 PM.

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