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[ZedxKayn]

So, if I farm essences that means EVERYONE will use them and I'll save half an hour?

No, I'll farm them and it won't change a thing about what everyone else is doing, so it'll just be a waste of my time. People don't like Bozja, they just want their relic, so this idea where everyone's farming to optimize their performance in it is just delusional.

But like. This mindset is why it happens lol. "If other people don't care, why should I?", if everyone thinks that way, nothing will change.

[Goji1639]

But like. This mindset is why it happens lol. "If other people don't care, why should I?", if everyone thinks that way, nothing will change.

Nothing will change, though. This mindset exists because Bozja isn't fun; it's terrible content that they get people to play only by gating the relic behind it. Me wasting more time in there isn't going to fix that.

If Bozja were fun and engaging, with great rewards I'd be in there all day and have 100's of everything. Instead it's a tedious chore that has only one thing that most people want, and that's the relic. A bunch of disinterested and non-committed people doing the bare minimum is the best Bozja can ever hope for, and it only even has that because of the relic. If not for the relic the place would just be dead, and it probably should be.

[Iscah]

yeah, that's the only one. Otherwise, all the other raids in all the other series weren't required at any point.

While not required, the Alexander and Omega raids are definitely relevant to the MSQ.

[ReynTime]

That's not demanding 150%. That's not even demanding 100%.

That's demanding 60% at best, and you delivering half of it by not doing the bare minimum of prep.

Also people who don't like the content should not be doing the content. Period. "You just want the relic" isn't a pass to drag other people down with intentionally bad setup.
Rewards exist to give players who like doing the content to have a prize in the end.

You won't see me complaining about ocean fishing grind because I don't like the feature and don't actively pursue it. I'm also not going to be doing savage content I'm unprepared for and complain people don't like how I play.
I know I'm not entitled to every reward in this game. Wish the rest of the playerbase did.

[Goji1639]

That's not demanding 150%. That's not even demanding 100%.

That's demanding 60% at best, and you delivering half of it by not doing the bare minimum of prep.

Also people who don't like the content should not be doing the content. Period. "You just want the relic" isn't a pass to drag other people down with intentionally bad setup.
You won't see me complaining about ocean fishing grind because I don't like the feature and don't actively pursue it. I'm also not going to be doing savage content I'm unprepared for and complain people don't like how I play.
I know I'm not entitled to every reward in this game. Wish the rest of the playerbase did.

If you actually like Bozja then this probably isn't a smart position to take. The only reason that pile of crap is still breathing is that most people really look forward to the relic, and will endure almost anything to get it.

The extra preparation isn't necessary to clear the content; it's a luxury. No one's going to spend more time in Bozja than they have to for something that isn't necessary. I'll queue up, play my class to the best of my ability and do mechanics, but I won't be spending even a second longer in Bozja than what's required of me. Your "demands" don't matter. Honestly, you should be thankful that the relic hunters are keeping the place alive for you, even if they're not optimizing.

[MilkieTea]

If you actually like Bozja then this probably isn't a smart position to take. The only reason that pile of crap is still breathing is that most people really look forward to the relic, and will endure almost anything to get it.

The extra preparation isn't necessary to clear the content; it's a luxury. No one's going to spend more time in Bozja than they have to for something that isn't necessary. I'll queue up, play my class to the best of my ability and do mechanics, but I won't be spending even a second longer in Bozja than what's required of me. Your "demands" don't matter. Honestly, you should be thankful that the relic hunters are keeping the place alive for you, even if they're not optimizing.

This is just contradictory - you wont use essences (that don't give you a 20% boost, but a 60% boost at minimum if you use the correct ones) to make the run go even a tiny bit faster, because you dont want to take longer than necessary... but by not using essences, youre MAKING the run take longer than necessary. Yes, you, personally. Your input directly helps to speed things along - if 23 others dont use essences that means that your 1/24th input will speed things along. and if 23 others USE essences, then your 1/24th input will slow things down.

[CKNovel]

Can't wait for next thread about a toxic casual complaining about people asking them to use food.

You don't need the big boy essences. Basic one will do.
I have a small stack of 50 basic Lifesteal potions and since it works with Lost Assassination, it's far enough to do the job for Castrum, Dalriada or even DR.

You can also sell the one you don't use and buy the one you actually need.

Just adopt the mentality that others does a bare minimum preparations and you should at least do the same, not less. Don't be the handicap, become a strong element of the team they can rely on.

[SaberMaxwell]

ITT: People arguing "why should I put the shopping cart away, someone else will do it for me."

Like man, you don't even gotta farm the stuff is cheap as heck on the market board just buy a stack of an essence and you'll be good.

Maybe Yoshi P is right to be dumbing the game down and making it more solo friendly. If people cba to buy a thing off a market board to make something substantially better for a community, why would we expect them to learn and understand combos, aoe situations, healing and mitigation strategies, and mechanical awareness?

[ReynTime]

ITT: People arguing "why should I put the shopping cart away, someone else will do it for me."

Like man, you don't even gotta farm the stuff is cheap as heck on the market board just buy a stack of an essence and you'll be good.

Maybe Yoshi P is right to be dumbing the game down and making it more solo friendly. If people cba to buy a thing off a market board to make something substantially better for a community, why would we expect them to learn and understand combos, aoe situations, healing and mitigation strategies, and mechanical awareness?

Yoshi-P is right in the sense it makes $$$ to appeal to those people.
He and his team are wrong in the sense they are the ones who put us in this situation. XIV doesn't pushes players into learning to do the basic. It pats them in the head instead. And the more they "dumb" it down, the more the "casual toxicitiy" will spread.

I swear ever since the Alexander incident they didn't just take a step back with punishing players. They jumped a 100 miles back and decided to never step forward.

[Goji1639]

This is just contradictory - you wont use essences (that don't give you a 20% boost, but a 60% boost at minimum if you use the correct ones) to make the run go even a tiny bit faster, because you dont want to take longer than necessary... but by not using essences, youre MAKING the run take longer than necessary. Yes, you, personally. Your input directly helps to speed things along - if 23 others dont use essences that means that your 1/24th input will speed things along. and if 23 others USE essences, then your 1/24th input will slow things down.

I honestly don't mind DR, it's the Bozja overworld that's terrible and I will not spend any extra time in. DR taking a bit longer doesn't bother me too much.

Either way, you're wrong. Farming enough essences could take hours, whereas me, as a single player, using essences won't have a significant impact on DR's duration at all; especially as a DPS class. It's faster for ME to not bother with essences if I don't already have them; that's just reality.