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Thread: New Scions (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd like to see a completely new cast, personally. By all means, we can check in with the existing characters from time to time but I didn't like how Shadowbringers introduced us to a new world but had the bulk of the story still revolve around the Scions.

    Overfamiliarity can often breed contempt and...I doubt the Final Fantasy games as a whole would be popular if they each followed the same cast over and over again. It's time for something fresh, I think!

    Oh - and we should get a male Raen or Xaela to travel with.
    I agree completely. Even Y'shtola and Urianger, characters I've loved since I started ARR, started to grind on my nerves a bit (Urianger, WHY YOU KEEP LYING TO ME, BRUH?!?).

    As others have said, I still want to check in with the Scions from time to time -- I definitely hope they all get a pleasant send-off of sorts -- but definitely grew a bit weary of seeing TOO many familiar faces in Shadowbringers.

    With the exception of Tataru. As far as I'm concerned, she's the best character in the game, and you can fight me if you think different!
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    Please give us a compltely new cast. I'm so tired of the scions. And not just new scions, get rid of us being around scions altogether, give us a fresh new thing, let us make our own group (us = the WoL, not the player). And as others have said, please make them more colorful and diverse, also not some group we're the new dude in.
    And for the love of gods, please no kids to babysit anymore, just adults. I've grown fond of Alphinaud (while my hate for Alisaie just keeps growing) and Ryne was precious, but I'm tired of going around saving the world while also having to babysit. It's basically as if the WoL is a single parents who just keeps getting more kids, and really got nobody else to look after them at home so has to bring them to work. I tire of these shenanigans. Especially considering one of them is truly a problem child.
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    I can see the Scions disbanding, while Estinien just joined he's still the lone wolf type and is there to see this through to the end.

    Graha and Alisaie are most likely candidates to stick with us since Graha is new and Alisaie is basically a WOL groupie. Yshtola seems to be the "mascot" of XIV so it wouldn't quite feel the same if she just retires into a cave like the other Matoya. She is way too outgoing to just keep her nose in the books. Even as free agents they will still play some kind of role since they are Trusts, though new blood to expand the roster would be nice.

    I've thought about some of the job quest people coming along, like the Viera healer from the GNB questline.

    Still curious what they're going to do for the new story. If primals are going to be a thing of the past, what next? Supernatural? Mythological Gods come back to--oh wait, that's the new 24 man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    I can see the Scions disbanding, while Estinien just joined he's still the lone wolf type and is there to see this through to the end.

    Graha and Alisaie are most likely candidates to stick with us since Graha is new and Alisaie is basically a WOL groupie. Yshtola seems to be the "mascot" of XIV so it wouldn't quite feel the same if she just retires into a cave like the other Matoya. She is way too outgoing to just keep her nose in the books. Even as free agents they will still play some kind of role since they are Trusts, though new blood to expand the roster would be nice.

    I've thought about some of the job quest people coming along, like the Viera healer from the GNB questline.

    Still curious what they're going to do for the new story. If primals are going to be a thing of the past, what next? Supernatural? Mythological Gods come back to--oh wait, that's the new 24 man.
    Radovan and Sophie would both be great to have around.
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    Thancred:Would rather he just retire and we maybe get the likes of Riol to
    fill his place. Man deserves a long rest.

    Urianger:He can go. His only plot point is to keep lying to us and then apologize afterwards.

    Yshtola:She can go as well. For some reason Thancred seems to be the only one with actual consequences from Flow, but she can hop in multiple times and get stabbed by Zenos and live. I hope they kill her off in EW, she’s stale.

    Alphinaud:I’d rather him go and work with his dad in Sharlayan and help get rid of whatever corruption there is there. Never hated or loved him, he’s just there.

    Alisaie:Would rather she stay with her brother. Never been a fan of her and she’s always been annoying to me. I’d like to get someone else to fill the role of “hot headed”.

    Graha: As unlikely as it is, i really do hope they kill him off in EW. He’s probably the worst of the bunch in terms of plot armor, and just overall annoyance with his fanboy moments. Really hope he isn’t a major part of EW otherwise....zzzz.

    Overall i’d love to have an entire new cast of characters for 6.1+. All the current scions are old and starting to get really unbearable. It would also open up the avenues for a diversity in races and looks.
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    Graha, Yshtola, The Twin and Estinien will surely stay for the whole of Endwalker and beyond.

    I see them planning to have the Twin to be someday a fully grown Elezen with unique mature elezen models.

    Yshtola is too popular to be removed at the moment.

    Estinien and Graha just joined and are surely being groomed to have larger scion roles.

    Yes I would love to see more diverse race in the scions. Hope they introduce new scions that comes from the other races like Au Ra (Yugiri?), Hrothgar, the Bunnies and Roes
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    Graha gonna stay with us I think. We promised to take him on an adventure. Sure, we got an adventure now, but it's nearing the end of it, and he's only joined in the latter phases of it. He needs a full adventure with us.

    I hope we get another obscure quest NPC as a new Scion later, like how Estinien went from that forgettable DRG rival to hobo-grump friend Scion.
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    Last edited by LystAP; 06-03-2021 at 02:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They might take the XI approach to things and have us working with different people every expansion due to them seemingly wanting to switch to self-contained stories instead of another lengthy story arc.
    This is what I figured may happen as well. If 6.x really finishes explaining and dealing with everything they set up from the start - ascians, Hydaelyn/Zodiark, the Scions, the Echo, and primals - then it would be just like XI was at the end of its second expansion, and from there we can go to new parts of the world, spending an entire expansion there meeting people and working with them on whatever it is they have going on. This would be especially true if the conclusion in either 6.3 or 6.5 results in the removal of any or all of those key elements; i.e. if the Echo stops happening and summoning primals becomes impossible, then the Scions have no reason to still exist as a group.

    It would also be a welcome change IMO, as the cracks from straining to maintain this single cohesive storyline really show with things like the Diablo Armament (because it has to be Allag, Garlemald, ascians, or all of them at once!) or adding in some new story about how they wanted Estinien to join the Scions for a long time (because everyone has to be a member to join the PC and be a trust!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    We need a “Slice of Life” expansion. No big world ending events, just more time to get to know characters in their daily lives... but with added drama! Tataru gets invited to an Iron Chef/Food wars competition which can somehow snowball into her mastering summoning. Hildebrand finds his way to the rising stones and uncovers a mystery about something or other and changes one of the Scions lives forever. Ryne and Gaia start a magical girl group and set off to further revive the world.

    Ya know... just random stuff for all the characters and no lvl increase just lots of story and glamours. Help move the story along a few years with a time skip at some point.
    Good excuse for a 2 year break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garet View Post
    Graha, Yshtola, The Twin and Estinien will surely stay for the whole of Endwalker and beyond.

    I see them planning to have the Twin to be someday a fully grown Elezen with unique mature elezen models.

    Yshtola is too popular to be removed at the moment.

    Estinien and Graha just joined and are surely being groomed to have larger scion roles.

    Yes I would love to see more diverse race in the scions. Hope they introduce new scions that comes from the other races like Au Ra (Yugiri?), Hrothgar, the Bunnies and Roes
    What does being popular have to do with anything? If she doesn’t fit the story and just constantly rehashes the same things, she needs to go. It’s getting real old seeing her “sacrifice” herself only to amount to nothing. She serves no purpose other than those brief feels moment and the occasional light bulb, which can be done by any other character. I really don’t think popularity should play a part in anything as that’s when we get things like Graha.
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