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  1. #1
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    Leliana78's Avatar
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    Lelianna Okami
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    Famfrit
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    Thaumaturge Lv 64

    Dungeons Need a Gear check system

    I've been doing lots of dungeons and raids with my fc master, we've been queing for high level dungeons, people have been coming into dungeons with 1 - 15 level gear or they completely neglect the right side of their toon. It makes a healers job harder if the tank has too low a level gear. Thus my fc master and me have had to leave the dungeon when we group up with people that don't care about gearing for a dungeon. WE need a gear rating system that makes sure everybody has gear that is equal level gear or higher.
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    ItMe's Avatar
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Don't we have this?
    If your iLVL is too low you can't que in.
    Every dungeon is 110% clearable with a full party at this minimum iLVL, so I'm not sure how much more of a check is actually needed.
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    Kemiko Oyung
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I'm fairly certain dungeons only start requiring item levels at LV50. I don't believe Sastasha up to Aurum Vale has ilv requirements.
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kemiko View Post
    I'm fairly certain dungeons only start requiring item levels at LV50. I don't believe Sastasha up to Aurum Vale has ilv requirements.
    That's correct.
    For some reason, ARR dungeons and story trials are still an exception to this rule although some of them, like Brayflox or Stone Vigil, can hit quite hard and it's really noticable if someone in the party is joining with starter gear. They may have left ARR dungeons out of this because it's extremely easy to cheese the ilvl with gear only being tied to level, not class/ role for the most part. You could show up in lv 30 crafter gear and pass the ilvl req.
    So they'd have to adjust that aswell. Easier to just add it for HW onwards where you can't cheese as much.
    Easier to just make it from HW onwards
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    Alexwern Nisutoromu
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Don't we have this?
    If your iLVL is too low you can't que in.
    Every dungeon is 110% clearable with a full party at this minimum iLVL, so I'm not sure how much more of a check is actually needed.
    You can cheese min ILV by having few high level pieces. For example WHM with full 270 except ilv1 weapon can enter almost all HW content and then not being able to heal anything. A little extreme case but very much possible.
    TBH the min ilv should be per piece and not average.
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    Chymea Sum
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AleXwern View Post
    You can cheese min ILV by having few high level pieces. For example WHM with full 270 except ilv1 weapon can enter almost all HW content and then not being able to heal anything. A little extreme case but very much possible.
    TBH the min ilv should be per piece and not average.
    I feel it should have a floor on the minimum that's below the average iLvl required but beyond that be fine.

    That way someone doesn't have to replace every item on them by the time the next iLvl increase happens.

    Just choosing random numbers here:

    Like avg iLvl required is 400. Minimum individual iLvl required is 320.
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    Felien Eurelt
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AleXwern View Post
    You can cheese min ILV by having few high level pieces. For example WHM with full 270 except ilv1 weapon can enter almost all HW content and then not being able to heal anything. A little extreme case but very much possible.
    TBH the min ilv should be per piece and not average.
    This is not a real problem because the only way that this happend is if the person is trolling. Like ppl that remove gear inside the dng, beside from that is not a big problem.
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    Mr Magic
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Felien View Post
    This is not a real problem because the only way that this happend is if the person is trolling. Like ppl that remove gear inside the dng, beside from that is not a big problem.
    Had a tank in Snowcloak (min iLvl 80) with a lvl 43 weapon and lvl 46 body piece. The rest of the left hand side was under 80 but the right hand side was tomestone accessories and thats what got them in. I think they saw that the accessories were cheaper and started from there.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MrMagic View Post
    Had a tank in Snowcloak (min iLvl 80) with a lvl 43 weapon and lvl 46 body piece. The rest of the left hand side was under 80 but the right hand side was tomestone accessories and thats what got them in. I think they saw that the accessories were cheaper and started from there.
    How did the run go?
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AleXwern View Post
    TBH the min ilv should be per piece and not average.
    So people can be locked out by having gotten unlucky with wrist drops, even while the rest is fine? No.

    Weighted contribution would be fine.
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