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    Endwalker Exploration Zones

    Should we receive exploration zones again in Endwalker. Please take some things into consideration

    1: Don't make the area so large that by the time you get to a fate in just one zone of the map the fate is 80-90% dead and players are unable to get credit for it.

    2: If you are going to do buffs post level cap again maybe make it so they only apply to the instanced content like Castrum Lacis Latore, Dalriada, and Delubrum Regane. This would also help fates not die so fast.

    3: Don't make lost actions required for winning or even just doing things in a reasonable amount of time, or surviving certain engagements. Consider them as just a bonus that makes things better if you have them or...

    4: Make Lost Actions, or whatever you call them next time, a one and done thing. Meaning once you have that skill or item you never have to go find it again once you have used it up. Just make them have cool downs, or be a once per zone thing or a until you die thing.

    5: The saying is three strikes and you are out. So maybe instead of instant death after getting hit twice you could up that to three times. Two is very low especially when going into something for the first time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    1: Don't make the area so large that by the time you get to a fate in just one zone of the map the fate is 80-90% dead and players are unable to get credit for it.
    Or maybe they can just position the fate locations closer to the aetherytes or to each other, without us losing the beauty of vast open world zones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVigilant View Post
    without us losing the beauty of vast open world zones.
    Have you seen Bozja? It's brown. Just brown all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raskbuck View Post
    Have you seen Bozja? It's brown. Just brown all around.
    I have also seen all the zones of ARR, Heavensward, Stormblood and I looked at all of Shadowbringers before looking at just Bozja.
    What I meant is there is a beauty to the open world being vast in an MMORPG, especially if there is something to explore it for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVigilant View Post
    I have also seen all the zones of ARR, Heavensward, Stormblood and I looked at all of Shadowbringers before looking at just Bozja.
    What I meant is there is a beauty to the open world being vast in an MMORPG, especially if there is something to explore it for.
    Just to clarify, OP is talking about the Field Operations maps (aka Eureka and Bozja), and not the rest of the zones.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's also a warzone. When's the last time you saw a warzone that was anything but brown?
    I was replying to their statement of "beauty of vast open world zones." I never implied warzones were supposed to be pretty.
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    Last edited by Raskbuck; 06-05-2021 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    3: Don't make lost actions required for winning or even just doing things in a reasonable amount of time, or surviving certain engagements. Consider them as just a bonus that makes things better if you have them or...
    If the content were balanced around not having Lost Actions, then that would unbalance the content even more when some have them and some don't. It would be a repeat of "I missed out because it was dead before I could get there ".

    Either the content needs to be balanced around the existence of Lost Actions, or Lost Actions would need to be removed altogether. Remove the Lost Actions, and you remove what makes the content more interesting than normal FATEs to many players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Or they can take borrowed power and shove it....

    I'm just salty. I hate borrowed power. Blizzard's been doing it since Legion and it's nothing but an unmitigated disaster. Abilities and stuff that only work for one expansion. It's garbage.
    The Lost Action system isn't a borrowed power system, though. Lost Actions are consumable buffs. They'll still be available for you to use in Bozja/Zadnor next expansion if you go back to level up new jobs or farm relics you don't obtain this expansion.

    But I do agree that borrowed power systems like those in WoW are terrible. No point in putting in all that effort if the reward is going to be permanently taken away from you at expansion's end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raskbuck View Post
    Have you seen Bozja? It's brown. Just brown all around.
    It's also a warzone. When's the last time you saw a warzone that was anything but brown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's also a warzone. When's the last time you saw a warzone that was anything but brown?
    Ahh, right, tropical climates with camouflaged or less lengthily entrenched positions can't possibly be in the midst of war...
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    Or they can take borrowed power and shove it....

    I'm just salty. I hate borrowed power. Blizzard's been doing it since Legion and it's nothing but an unmitigated disaster. Abilities and stuff that only work for one expansion. It's garbage.
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    Don't make instanced, gimmicky, exploration zones ; just make interesting things in the open world areas for starter...

    5: The saying is three strikes and you are out. So maybe instead of instant death after getting hit twice you could up that to three times. Two is very low especially when going into something for the first time.
    Yeah, and since it's important, it would have a specific UI element so we can easily track if we're losing or not.
    But 2 or 3 is a little constricted, so the number should be bigger, for more granularity.
    It would allows a lot of things, like skills that restore this number, or make it decrease slower. We could even be crazy and say some jobs are dedicated to this.

    It just needs a name now...
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