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    Player
    Yencat's Avatar
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I feel like the angle of the ear bases means that hats would have to be quite big to line up with them? Which might look fine over hair, but it's hard to tell. They tend to have very bulky hairstyles as far as I can think.
    The ear base isn't actually as big or as long as it looks there, the cut-outs in the hairstyles look like this (normally they're bald spots and not filled in, but this is the only image I could find showing the shape) everything around it is just fluff from the ears and not actually part of the base.

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    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Masamune
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    Black Mage Lv 42
    *We designed them badly on purpose and never actually worked to implement hats and hairstyles*
    Loo, not surprised
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    *We designed them badly on purpose and never actually worked to implement hats and hairstyles*
    Loo, not surprised
    Yeah I honestly dont know why they designed them that way. Why did they decide that it was okay, that Hrothgar players would need to buy Fantasia to change their hairstyle? Also what about their words that Viera and Hrothgar would get unique hairstyles in exchange for them being so restricted? Where are they? And Shadowbringers was released months before Covid even started, so its not like they had no time there either...

    I imo could live with it if they simply said that the old hats would never be changed so that the two races would only get the new ones. But I will never really accept that these two races cant even wear hairstyles that some had to buy with real money...any hairstyle that comes out and is given as a direct reward, is part of an event or costs real money now to get should be wearable by every race.
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
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    Reaper Lv 100
    It's just hats and hairdos. Good lord. Everything else works fine.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Euphares View Post
    I mean I doubt we will ever see community pushback against negligence like this unless its widespread and egregious. That's the problem when players are super buddy-buddy with the company they pay money to, there's no pressure to not half ass things.

    People who don't play H/V will just shrug and move on. People who do play H/V will just mod and deal with it.


    A shame though, we're losing out on so much because of this approach ;(.
    Unfortunately it’s a big problem with this community in general. People are fine being spoonfed by SE and will accept anything they do and constantly defend every action they take no matter how bad. I strongly believe it’ll be the death of the game at some point because people just go around like blind sheep.Community pushback is very rare and i was genuinely surprised by the Male Viera and Female Hrothgar fans actively taking a stand. If only they would do that more often.
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    Puremallace's Avatar
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    Pure Mallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Worst mistake they ever made was adding to Viera to this MMO. Why do you want hats if you are supposed to be a bunny? It is LITERALLY a race made from playboy bunny's. The entire point is the ears and nice figure. I seriously thought all the feminist would get more upset by the prior things vs not having the equality of a hat.
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    BunniEclair's Avatar
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    Tea Cakes
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Worst mistake they ever made was adding to Viera to this MMO. Why do you want hats if you are supposed to be a bunny? It is LITERALLY a race made from playboy bunny's. The entire point is the ears and nice figure. I seriously thought all the feminist would get more upset by the prior things vs not having the equality of a hat.
    Can we stop with the “Playboy Bunny” crap already? Get some new material. They are tall women with bunny ears, there’s nothing more inherently sexist about them over the other races.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    To be fair, I don't think he's necessarily wrong about such being the inspiration behind their design...

    The addition of male viera has allowed the race to move away from that stereotype somewhat, but let's not forget that Yoshi-P himself is on record stating that he would be reluctant to add them because, in his own words, 'a male rabbit might be kind of weird'.



    He's since changed his mind and the interview in question is from 2013 but still...
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I want to know why they thought tying hairstyles to faces on Hrothgar was a good decision.

    Forces players to buy fantasia if they want a particular hairstryle later on.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    That's actually really too bad. I would rather have had mixed race(s), like Hilda (Elezen/Hyur) - which would probably have no limitations.. than viera in this state. That sort of mixed race would not only be popular, but I also doubt they'd be limited. They'd get hairs and hats just like everyone else, plus look cool. A proper elf race. What could have been..

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It was common enough feedback over the years, too - but for whatever reason the development team decided to add not one but two new playable races at the same. Not only did they do as much, they ended up having to add the missing genders in addition because naturally when people only get half of something, a lot of them want the full thing.

    The situation would probably bother me less if it weren't for the fact that at least two rival MMO's have completely revamped their character customisation fairly recently and there's a couple of upcoming MMO's on the horizon that allow me to design a character more to my personal taste.
    They add viera/hrothgar, then it feels like they completely forget about them. No updates, limited. Then they add in male viera - who will be just as limited, and then they are going to add another beast race gender - that probably won't be able to change their single hair without fantasia. While I like viera, I really question if it was actually worth the resources spent and will ultimately be spent on maintaining this race.

    For example: Now instead of just creating hairs that everyone can use, they are making hairs that everyone else can use. On top of that - eventually - hairs that only viera can use, then, supposedly, new heads that male hroth can use (have to fantasia) as a substitute for hairs, then, again, heads that only female hroth can use!
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 05-31-2021 at 06:39 PM.
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