Soooo these relics... lets talk.

[Raylazer11]

Now I know the team has gone through a lot this past year. We all have. So let me make this clear. I get that we can't be so demanding in times like that of covid. Then and now. Whatever your political stances are.

But.

That doesn't mean we should not give feedback if we feel the need too. So lets just all be honest.

I feel as if this last relic step of ShB is probably one of, if not THE WORST final relics step compared to past relic tiers.

The models... They're plain.
They DO have a different and interesting glow to them. But the glow itself seems a tad plain as well.

It's just all boring. They could've in my mind done 2 things... if not at least one of those. To make them more interesting and worth the time investment. and they've done both of these before!
1: Make the solid "Mass effect" glow rotate around the weapons. (EI: Alexander weapons)
2: Made the neon soft glow of the weapon itself have a nice follow effect. (EI: most Trial glowing weapons)

To not have that and to just have that plain look of the weapon model and glow is just sad to me.

For most final steps new people always would look at them and go "Wow that's cool" and the weapon would have a cool bright stand out from the crowd kind of effect.
The final step used to make a statement. Mostly just "I have no life and decided to torture myself" kind but still it meant something because it not only had a cool and unique effect but also that it was a paaaaain to get. Plus, you as the player who had it would feel like "Yeah I did the thing to get this cool looking weapon."

With these new ones... They just feel lazy, uninspired and cheap.

With the ShB's final step I can barely tell they're even a glow from far away.

They've could've done more. But they didn't. Kinda feels like they stopped half way through.

The only GOOD ones are probably brd and gnb.
The others are ok i guess... still worse then most EX trial weapons.
The worst being NIN, Mch and mnk with drg, and smn/sch right behind. The models themselves are just so lazy how can you say they don't look plain and flat? The glows barely add anything to them. Other then a color you can't change. Which i'd be fine with if they at least moved or something.

I'm not mad. Just disappointed. All that time spent to have a cool looking weapon and instead... I get a book that barely glows pee yellow and shoves the walmart logo in my face.

I personally feel like I've wasted a lot of my time for most if not all the relics looking worse then the glowing titan weapons.

I know they probably wont change/add anything... But I'll hold out hope for a bit into endwalker.

Anyway rate 1 to 4 (1 being best) what you think about the weapons and why. I'd love to see the conversation started about how everyone feels about these weapons.

For me these relics are the worst relics of them all so I'll give it a 4.

But these are just my opinions.

[Vahlnir]

I don't like how a huge majority of them look, but the ones that I actually do like...I really, REALLY like them. GNB and SAM are my favorites (GNB's final stage is probably my favorite relic weapon yet), with PLD coming in 3rd. Currently in the middle of the DR stage of the PLD weapon (yay...) but I'll get there. I have also seen players say they hate the ones I like, and I don't find what others like very pleasing to the eye. Everyone's got their personal preferences. Like a lot of things, this is entirely subjective.

[Starshower]

I'm disappointed as well. Right now I've got the gunbreaker and red mage ones, will get more later just because it's easy and the stats are good. To me, the best looking one by far is the white mage one, followed by gunbreaker. I'm indifferent on the others.
I was doing delubrum reginae today, with my gunbreaker relic, and there was another gunbreaker there, with the hades weapon. I couldn't stop thinking how his weapon looked so much cooler than my relic. The model itself glowed when sheathed, the glow glowed more, the effect was cooler and more apparent... meanwhile my weapon barely glowed and you really had to look for it to realize it was a relic... There was also a white mage with a tsukoyomi weapon. I always hated the crafted tsukoyomi weapons... the effect seemed bland and uninspired to me, just a glow... But compared to my relic even that looked cooler... the glow was strong and noticeable. This is the first relic to me, that is outshined by crafted primal weapons. That is really disappointing.


I also was disappointed by the eureka relics when they reached the last step. I thought they were ugly as sin. But by comparison, even those looked cooler. The glow was overbearing and apparent. The effect unique. The base models themselves can't be redeemed in my opinion. But those weapons do look like final stage relics, and they are rare to boot!


I just see all those players with hades and ultimate weapons in gangos... even sheathed they are lit up and look cool and eye catching. By comparison the new relics don't look that impressive, only people in the know would know they are the final step of a relic and thus supposed to be "cool". But for untrained eyes we have crafted primal weapons that look cooler, and that stinks. I still think for some of the jobs the previous step looked cooler.

[BlitzAceRush]

I actually like their slightly "understated" feel, I like how their glow is more of a high light as opposed to all over them, though I do like myself some glow, honestly it just comes down to taste, we had the same thread in reverse last time, with the glow being too much. I personally don't like a lot of the primal weapons everyone runs around with, to each their own.

[MPK]

Yes, they're REALLY bad. Reason it's is so bad is because they deferred resources from these relics to male veiras.

They also most likely saw the number of people actually doing the relic and decided not to put any effort into it since no one's doing it.

Here's probably what happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GNVMFVBxE

[Vahlnir]

Yes, they're REALLY bad. Reason it's is so bad is because they deferred resources from these relics to male veiras.

They also most likely saw the number of people actually doing the relic and decided not to put any effort into it since no one's doing it.

Here's probably what happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GNVMFVBxE

-10/10

Come on MPK, you've gotta step up your game. It's been so long and you have yet to improve yourself or your many alter egos. At least make your posts worthy of a small chuckle. They really don't make trolls like they used to. It used to be considered an art form of sorts. What you create...is the furthest thing from that as humanly possible. It's probably time to re-evaluate your profession.

[Clover_Blake]

It's just all boring. They could've in my mind done 2 things... if not at least one of those. To make them more interesting and worth the time investment. and they've done both of these before!
1: Make the solid "Mass effect" glow rotate around the weapons. (EI: Alexander weapons)
2: Made the neon soft glow of the weapon itself have a nice follow effect. (EI: most Trial glowing weapons)

With these new ones... They just feel lazy, uninspired and cheap.

But these are just my opinions.

Since you are aware that this is just your subjective opinion, then you should also know that a design isn't going to be bad or "lazy" merely because you personally don't like it, nor are the designers at fault for your personal tastes.

Chances are many people would also dislike the changes you suggest.

[wereotter]

So.... since we're sharing opinions. Obviously with any design they could have chosen some will like them and some will not. Generally speaking, for me, I tend to HATE every final step for every relic weapon. This isn't because of glow or animations on them, but because they tend to have ugly weapon models, and for some jobs (ninja tends to have this problem) the weapon itself is also entirely too large.

For me, I actually like the majority of the weapons I've seen for these final steps. I like that they look a bit more like realistic weapons that could feasibly be wielded. I don't love the glow effect, but I also don't hate it. I'm relatively neutral on that part, but for me it's an overall more positive end result for me than previous expansions.

[Irisdina_Wiloh]

I agree OP, I've barely bothered with relics this expac when they've been something I always looked forward to. Ever since we got the Hydatos relics I've started feeling pretty iffy about the team that are designing these. I don't know what happened but the relic models prior to Law's Order are really good for almost every single job and the effects are also really good for most of them too. What went wrong?

I think your first suggestion of making the effect rotate would at least something more to the relics and maybe even improve them a bit but it's pretty telling that these relics have been poorly received when 90% of the time I see people with relics have glamoured over them, with the exceptions usually being GNB (which I might actually go for because the final one is perhaps the only good one) and WHM and it's usually the relics from Law's Order onwards that are glamoured over, the i500 and lower ones I will usually see glamoured on top of other weapons.

[Alaray]

I like them a lot more than the Eureka versions, but I prefer the sleeker and more contained style.

Basically, they're fine. Not everyone's going to like every aesthetic choice, it's pretty impossible to appease every player with a visual design.