Why is the healer class basically a one spell dps class?

[Roeshel]

Hello,

To get to the point, why do the healer classes have so few utility spells. Everything is raw healing. And the amount of healing needed can be covered by your ogcds almost all the time. So you don't even need to break the glare/malefic/broil or Holy/Gravity/Art of War spam.

I get why so many people enjoy ast. It is probably the hardest heal job to learn to play optimally. You have to use ogcd for sustain or dmg buff every time you cast gravity or malefic to maintain your uptime. It's a little bit more complicated than back to back broil or glare spam with the occasional ogcd heal when reapplying DoT.

Don't get me wrong. I like demolishing the pack mobs with AoE spam. I just don't understand why the healers don't have more supportive spells.

[Semirhage]

That's been the question since Stormblood skill previews.

[Dzian]

Because there job is to heal. Not dps.

Honestly though I think its just a total lack of communication between the people designing the jobs and the people designing the content..

You can see this everytine they come out and say we've made healing more important or intensive. And sure it works. For a whole week maybe even 2 before peoes Ilevel covers the extra heals they needed and things go right back to the way they were...


As for ast. I did enjoy it in 4.0 lotsnof fun. But 5.0 I think I've played it twice not even enough to get it to 71. They absolutely murdered everything that made it fun..

[Roeshel]

Because there job is to heal. Not dps.

Honestly though I think its justba total lack of communication between the people designing the jobs and the people designing the content..

You can see this everytine they come out and say we've made healing more important or intensive. And sure it works. For a whole week maybe even 2 before peoes Ilevel covers the extra heals they needed and things go right back to the way they were...


As for ast. I did enjoy it in 4.0 lotsnof fun. But 5.0 I think I've played it twice not even enough to get it to 71. They absolutely murdered everything that made it fun..

Well idk how it was before sb. I started playing this april.

Usually, healers are a support class, they have lots of spells for utility aside from their normal healing spells. In FFXIV it is heal or dps. Only ast has that fraction of true support healer.

[Recon1o6]

because SE apparently thought we weren't healing enough+job design team are a pair of dps mains who think that healers are there to heal dps players and tanks there to point the boss in the right direction+SE doesn't want jobs to have as much synergy in shb so they crippled utility of all kinds in shb.

Hell, they were so fearful of the backlash, that they skipped over the healer slide in the preview.

consequently, the healer playerbase has plummeted, the skill of healers on average has plummeted, and very few people pick up the jobs to replace them and witht he lack of difficulty or challenge, most new healers aren't learning how to use their kit assuming they stick with it past 10 levels of malefic/broil/glare spam

[Coulvre]

Healers used to have a more complicated DPS rotation (though admittedly not much), but for Shadowbringers that was removed and replaced with what we have now. It was supposedly done to emphasise a pure healing role, to solve the problem of healers basically being... exactly what the first post of this thread said. Unfortunately it didn't work, so now we just have the same situation, but healers have an even more boring DPS "rotation" than they used to.

I still main and enjoy playing healers, but I would welcome either a) a return to a more complex DPS rotation for healers since we will be expected to do that anyway, or b) a rework that actually achieves what they set out to do in Shadowbringers, giving healers the right kind of utility that means our jobs will involve more than just DPS and OGCD heal in the majority of content. I'm not sure how it should be achieved since I'm not really a game designer and to me it feels like it would be difficult to do without making it an entirely new game, but yeah.

[Truen]

I also would like a return to a meaningful dps rotation--questing is a wretched experience right now spamming 1-button nuke spells endlessly forever. But, let's be real--this is probably THE worst company when it comes to talking to and communicating with their player-base.

Anyone expecting substantial changes for the better are likely kidding themselves. Those making the decisions behind the scenes don't care about what their American audience has to say. They've proven that over the years. I remember back in the midst of the huge healer uproar when 5.0 rolled out these devs were being quoted as actually saying people were happy with the changes and there were no concerns.

[Recon1o6]

I also would like a return to a meaningful dps rotation--questing is a wretched experience right now spamming 1-button nuke spells endlessly forever. But, let's be real--this is probably THE worst company when it comes to talking to and communicating with their player-base.

Anyone expecting substantial changes for the better are likely kidding themselves. Those making the decisions behind the scenes don't care about what their American audience has to say. They've proven that over the years. I remember back in the midst of the huge healer uproar when 5.0 rolled out these devs were being quoted as actually saying people were happy with the changes and there were no concerns.

correction: non japanese playerbase. not all of us here are american.
even then, I'm not convinced they listen to their japan playerbase much as they've been complaining about healers as well

[ItMe]

Hello,

To get to the point, why do the healer classes have so few utility spells.
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I just don't understand why the healers don't have more supportive spells.

SAME
It's kinda lame that as a healer I can mainly support my teams HP needs and little else.

[Deceptus]

Because there job is to heal. Not dps.

If this is the mentality how are they supposed to finish the MSQ on healers?

Can't kill mobs with healing.