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  1. #21
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    As someone with all of the relics from HW-current.

    I would say it... depends.

    It depends on the order you do them in, and how you best make use of your time, really whilst doing those relics.

    For example, whilst doing the SB-ShB relics/Bozja you will naturally accrue plenty of poetics which will narrow out most of the grind from the HW relic series. Like, would you really want to do those, just to them find out that Eureka and Bozja hands you the tomestones on a silver platter.

    Even when doing the SB relics - If you do every relic for each stage before moving onto the next stage then you do burn a lot of time and resources doing this. e.g., spending time tracking the big NMs cam help reduce how much time you spend in each zone, and whether you find it worthwhile spending a lot of time just waiting for respawns, when you could be doing another zone.

    Equally can help actually planning across multiple relics, and doing multiple steps in tandem. This can save a ludicrous amount of time comparative to one step at a time. This is especially the case for the ShB relics, when you can work on several stages at once by doing the same activity, e.g., Delubrum Reginae. Even something as simple as doing both memories of the dying steps at the same time in Bozja can be a great hand in saving time.

    I wouldn't even go as far to say do the ARR relics before doing the HW relics and so forth. It's a big time waste, since there are steps in the ShB relic that allows you to effectively skip the same step that trading the Zeta relics for the first step of the HW relic otherwise would, so there's overlap in this regard, depending on how you do the memories of the dying.

    Progressing the ARR Zeta relics is also a great way to burn time between Eureka zones, and when there's downtime in Eureka, e.g., no NMs up.

    Another example is the Alexandrite step for the Zeta relics. - If you're able to do the Endwalker relics, and especially by hunt trains, and just doing S-Ranks generally then you will find yourself getting a lot of Allied Seals which you can use for this, not to mention Tomestone of Poetics as well.

    To keep it short, doing a lot of the relics in tandem will let you save a lot of time, if you're able to plan adequately for it. This does also imply that you are doing all relics from a given expansion and not just 1 relic from each expansion. But even in this case I would say doing some activities in tandem, and planning ahead can make a big difference, especially with poetic farming.

    Edit: They can take dreadfully long if you aren't respecting your time, or how efficiently you can do them. But they can be very short and very easy if you are respecting your time. I did the SB relics before doing the HW relics, and doing it that way effectively just allowed me to skip a tonne of poetic grinding.
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  2. #22
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    Jared Kane
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    I appreciate the feedback!

    I've only just barely started the Heavensward relic chain (at the point it's asking me to trade my Zodiac weapon, or whatever the alternative step is), and I've entered Eureka but I'm low level. In fact, do you need to level as the Job you want the Relic for, or is there a specific job that's easier to level with?

    For Bozja, I got just far enough I was given the initial weapon (I think), but that's about it.

    I'd originally thought I should try to do them in order (in case there was any dialogue referencing completing past relics), but it sounds like there's really no benefit to that other than the one-time option to sacrifice the ARR Zodiac weapons for the HW starting relic (which I'm not going to do).

    Because I'm not familiar with any of the quests besides the ARR ones, I'm figuring I'll just go ahead and start on the current EW relic (which I think someone said you have to do all the Hildebrand quests first?), and then maybe do stuff in Eureka in my downtime? I play entirely solo, which is probably ironic given I think I'm going to try and collect all of the Paladin relics (tanking stresses me out, but I already got the ARR Paladin ones, may as well go all-in). Funny enough though, the EW Dark Knight relic is maybe the coolest weapon is the game, and I actually really dig a lot of the White Mage relics, despite it being the only job I haven't even *started* to level.

    I'm hoping that with the Paladin, it'll at least be slow and steady, and gradually work my way towards relics. Any tips on how I could be more efficient on working towards multiple at the same time, though, would definitely be appreciated. Or even tips on getting Poetics; I just spend all of my on some ShB gear for the Blue Mage I just leveled, it didn't even occur to me that they would be used for relics. It's been go long since I've played, I feel like I'm having to re-learn what I'm supposed to be doing!

    Oh, also; in the latest Desparius video, it showed a new relic for Blue Mages? Is that difficult to get? Would I have to get that instead of another relic, or does that have some alternate means of acquisition?
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    Mike Aettir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    and I've entered Eureka but I'm low level. In fact, do you need to level as the Job you want the Relic for, or is there a specific job that's easier to level with?
    For Eureka and Bozja, you can collect the items as any job. For Eureka, I forget if you need to be the job when you get the weapon upgraded (as it is a menu where you hand the items in), however, for Bozja, you do need to be the job when you upgrade the weapon (as it is quest based).

    For Anima weapons, it depends on the quest you are on. Some might require the weapon to be equipped, these will mainly be the ones where you have to complete certain duties, and some you can do as any job, mainly the item collecting ones. However, you will need to be on the right job in order to complete the quest.

    Manderville, you can collect however you want, you just need to hand in the quest with the job you want to upgrade. It is worth noting that all quest based upgrades you have to start the quest on the right job as well (though you shouldn't be able to start the quest for a weapon you don't have).

    Any tips on how I could be more efficient on working towards multiple at the same time, though, would definitely be appreciated. Or even tips on getting Poetics;
    There really isn't anything you can do to make progress on 2 weapons at the same time, very rarely will quests line up. I can think of maybe 1 quest for the Resistance relic, but you are better off getting the items from Bozja as you need to progress Bozja anyway.

    The only exception is collecting tomes. NMs in Eureka (the FATEs) and the Skirmishes/Critical Engagements in Bozja will reward Poetics, which you can use on your Anima weapon.

    Oh, also; in the latest Desparius video, it showed a new relic for Blue Mages? Is that difficult to get? Would I have to get that instead of another relic, or does that have some alternate means of acquisition?
    Blue Mages do not have relics, at all. You likely saw the Exquisite Gentlemen's Umbrella, which is obtained in the same way the other Exquisite weapons are (apart from the difference in getting the Umbrella in the first place) by getting an upgrade mat from Criterion Savage of the newest Criterion dungeon.
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  4. #24
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    Jared Kane
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    Hmm, gotcha.

    Guess I just need to figure out at this point, since I’m assuming there’s going to be a lot of party-based progression (raids?), whether I want to go for the Paladin, Reaper (since it’s my only dps at lvl 90), or if there’s something else to try and level that might be more forgiving in groups?

    Those Exquisite ones are probably pretty hard to get I wager, but man do they look awesome.
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