Square Enix respects my time

[Nanchi]

Let me make this clear. I hate and despise the laziness of the developers that have decided to abandon job quest in favor of these stripped job quest that you maybe got away with in Shadownbringers because it was 7 years worth of story telling building up and it was a good way to get the point across.

100% this is actually the part that is really disheartening to me. It is an mmorpg and stripping this very significant rpg part away from the game is baffling. The only time I get really frustrated with the devs is when they take things away that have been in the game before. Aka job quests, implementing one gender of the new races even though they've said to never do this again after the initial miqote backlash. Not to mention the races being absolutely unfinished (especially hrothgar) THAT kind of development is worrying to me.

[ForteNightshade]

100% this is actually the part that is really disheartening to me. It is an mmorpg and stripping this very significant rpg part away from the game is baffling. The only time I get really frustrated with the devs is when they take things away that have been in the game before. Aka job quests, implementing one gender of the new races even though they've said to never do this again after the initial miqote backlash. Not to mention the races being absolutely unfinished (especially hrothgar) THAT kind of development is worrying to me.

In fairness to the dev team, there is only so much of a story you can tell before it simply drags on. While it's certainly subject, I doubt I'm alone in thinking a good chunk of the job quest story chains were simply bad. Even some of the better ones started to show their wane in Stormblood as the team were clearly out of ideas. Furthermore, we're at a point where our character can't realistically play the "student" role without it getting both extremely redundant and downright silly.

Now you could argue why not start brand new stories, but with nineteen jobs. That's a massive undertaking with only five quests to work with.

Personally, I'm far more interested in gameplay and the MSQ itself than how Curious Gorge gets depressed. Again.

[kaynide]

In fairness to the dev team, there is only so much of a story you can tell before it simply drags on.

I wouldn’t mind a callback or for role quests to utilize the NPCs from former job quests, but I do prefer the new way of role quests. BUT to be fair, I’m the kind of guy that prefers to binge-watch tv shows, so the episodic nature with huge wait times (entire expansions) between chunks is a turn off. More of a “me problem” than a problem with the stories themselves...though I would also say about 1/2 were pretty boring to my tastes.

The way the role quests could be done independently, then combined in a finale was a great approach to me.

Moving forward, it would be nice to see the various role NPCs working together (like all tank trainers get screen time/meet up in the course of the tank role storyline, with additional dialog if you did their particular job’s story)

[EtherRose]

Since this thread is talking about certain WoW creators I'd figure I give my two cents on two certain individuals. Bellular and Asmongold. Their both idiots. Now I mean I don't hate them as a person, just the stuff they do.

If anyone has followed their videos the past month(s) they complain about Blizzard(WoW) and the current state it's in. They express their disappointment about various issues, etc. But,....they still play/spend money on WoW. It's like, why do you keep playing a game that you are obviously not happy playing and constantly making videos on but still keep going back.

WoW is dead. It was dead the moment Blizzard decided to prey on people who have played the game for a long time and release classic WoW for them to have that "Nostalgic" feeling again. At least Bellular is looking to give FFXIV a chance while Asmongold is still letting his chat decide what he does and being a slave to Blizzard.

Asmongold's chat is so toxic towards FFXIV it's not even funny. All you see mainly in the comments is nothing but "Weeb this/that, game sucks, music sucks, etc". And you can clearly see it in his latest video of him "Reacting" to the Endwalker trailer. I honestly think that Asmongold would be willing to give FFXIV a try but is being held back by his chat. If his chat wasn't so toxic about FFXIV and genuinely think Asmongold should try FFXIV and conveyed this in twitch chat and was supportive about it, I'm sure he would try it.

[ItMe]

Since this thread is talking about certain WoW creators I'd figure I give my two cents on two certain individuals. Bellular and Asmongold. Their both idiots. Now I mean I don't hate them as a person, just the stuff they do.

If anyone has followed their videos the past month(s) they complain about Blizzard(WoW) and the current state it's in. They express their disappointment about various issues, etc. But,....they still play/spend money on WoW. It's like, why do you keep playing a game that you are obviously not happy playing and constantly making videos on but still keep going back.

Honestly, I can't blame them. If I were that established a content creator I'd also have a hard time leaving that drip behind (not to mention being a community figure head).
This also possibly explains why

Asmongold is still letting his chat decide what he does and being a slave to Blizzard.

[Shougun]

Honestly, I can't blame them. If I were that established a content creator I'd also have a hard time leaving that drip behind (not to mention being a community figure head).
This also possibly explains why

Indeed, I feel calling them names for their choice made it too simple and a bit unfair. .

I for a short time goofed around with youtube just to see what it's about, even have a mil view video lol (mostly are fractions of that view count though ), can tell you that if you've built yourself into a corner then branching out can be difficult / daunting feeling. It's not something I do anymore (which can make one feel guilty when someone subscribes or says "where did you go" lol. . .). If I did restart I'd probably just make it either RPG, or even narrowed and "Square Enix" related, but it's quite a bit of effort when you've another job xD. Learned a lot of stuff though so it was a fun experience. Makes you appreciate the effort some creators go through, or notice the lack there of others go through (which could be lack of care, knowledge, or potentially funds, not always because they're not trying).

Actually all that is a point I believe Y2K21 was essentially expressing, their solid source is WoW. Not everyone is blessed to enjoy the work they do, and in this situation it was work they clearly started out enjoying but felt slip over time. Of course I'd just note that I wasn't disagreeing with Y2K21 on that element, I was focusing on the viewers and how it's not great PR for Blizzard that viewers of a content are actively advertising another (and maybe bad for SE if these people who advertise for the game are going about it in poor ways).

[Gameovers]

Since this thread is talking about certain WoW creators I'd figure I give my two cents on two certain individuals. Bellular and Asmongold. Their both idiots. Now I mean I don't hate them as a person, just the stuff they do.

If anyone has followed their videos the past month(s) they complain about Blizzard(WoW) and the current state it's in. They express their disappointment about various issues, etc. But,....they still play/spend money on WoW. It's like, why do you keep playing a game that you are obviously not happy playing and constantly making videos on but still keep going back.

WoW is dead. It was dead the moment Blizzard decided to prey on people who have played the game for a long time and release classic WoW for them to have that "Nostalgic" feeling again. At least Bellular is looking to give FFXIV a chance while Asmongold is still letting his chat decide what he does and being a slave to Blizzard.

Asmongold's chat is so toxic towards FFXIV it's not even funny. All you see mainly in the comments is nothing but "Weeb this/that, game sucks, music sucks, etc". And you can clearly see it in his latest video of him "Reacting" to the Endwalker trailer. I honestly think that Asmongold would be willing to give FFXIV a try but is being held back by his chat. If his chat wasn't so toxic about FFXIV and genuinely think Asmongold should try FFXIV and conveyed this in twitch chat and was supportive about it, I'm sure he would try it.

I don't think it's his chat. He's clearly stated he doesn't like the anime look to the game and also doesn't like alot of the casual stuff we have. He'll only be into the endgame stuff. Asmongold wouldn't like his time in XIV honestly because of that. He's stated this a few times. And that's ok. He doesn't need to play or like XIV. I could be wrong but least thats what I'm getting from him.

[EtherRose]

I don't think it's his chat. He's clearly stated he doesn't like the anime look to the game and also doesn't like alot of the casual stuff we have. He'll only be into the endgame stuff. Asmongold wouldn't like his time in XIV honestly because of that. He's stated this a few times. And that's ok. He doesn't need to play or like XIV. I could be wrong but least thats what I'm getting from him.

He says he likes half/half of FFXIV. However, I'm sure that the chat heavily weighs on the other half which he basis' his opinion off of simply because of the way they act whenever he talks about FFXIV or reviews anything about it. He's a streamer. He'll do what he can to keep viewers. And if the viewers aren't having none of FFXIV then he won't either. He will do what the viewers want.

At this point, Asmongold and Bellular are just my daily source of comedy every time they post a video of them complaining about Blizzard/WoW. It's like an abusive relationship. You keep getting screwed over but keep going back for more and never learn.

[Velnora]

"Square Enix respects time".

Looks at past relic quests.

[TheNight]

Yes, it respects our time so much we are told to pay $13 to play other games.