Normalize criticism

[hobostew]

I don't really get where this idea that criticism isn't allowed even comes from. All people do here is complain about literally everything! If you have something you want to convey to the devs then you should go ahead and do it. It may happen that people will disagree with you and you should expect that but you have to keep in mind that you aren't here to please the crowd. If you feel there is something that could be done better or that you want added to the game you should just go ahead and post it anyway.

I'm not sure if it was Yoshi-p or maybe Ion over at WoW that said that they appreciate feedback particularly when its specific and detailed. A lot of the times people will throw around buzzwords and ultimately say very little and I imagine that kind of feedback isn't all that helpful. I feel that's also something to keep in mind.

[Radacci]

FF community is the strangest i seen in any MMO over the past 20 years.
There's more toxic ones like wow, but FF is just weird.
Haven't seen anything similar to the outrage about male Viera, aside from gender locked classes, but even that isn't as bad as this. Devs had to take time from their free time, to bring it to Endwalker, because of the mass hysteria. I think there was people who said they were going to cancel their sub and pre-order of ShB, if there was no male Viera.

It may happen that people will disagree with you and you should expect that but you have to keep in mind that you aren't here to please the crowd. If you feel there is something that could be done better or that you want added to the game you should just go ahead and post it anyway.

I'd like the devs to have this mentality too. They are devs because they know what they are doing, but ppl keep complaining until devs have to give in.
Like,i remember at ARR launch there was this 1man instance to fight a THM summoning a vodiriga or what not, it cast poison on you, and if you don't use antidote, you die. Well it was to difficult apparently to use an antidote, so they had to nerf it until it wasn't needed.
That's why all the content and skills are so simplified. Just looking at the expansion trailers, we know they are good at what they are doing, but most ppl seem to think they know better, what's good design.
I can't Imagine it's very exciting to be dev, not being able to follow your vision and creativity, because it's bottlenecked by ppl wanting to diminish it. It's like conservatives wanting minorities to continue not having same rights, and devs having to do that, to keep subs.
Their consern should be to make a good game that attract people that like it, not to make a simplified cash cow for subs - quality will attract a lot of gamers anyway.

What forums are you reading? Only time I see someone get told to unsub if they want to completely revamp how the entire game works. People have come onto Final Fantasy forums and suggested Square Enix just ignore the story and focus on putting out more raids. People have come here wanting to turn the entire game into a sandbox pvp MMO.

I see it often when someone has very strong criticism of something, there's always someone saying: then unsub, find another game, bye.

This isn't about XIV, but ppl been complaining about FF7R/XVI being action oriented, and are adamant about the soul of FF is ATB. XVI seems more like DmC, which i like, but if i talk about that with some ppl, their respons is: no! FF should be ATB, if you don't like it, go play DmC, leave FF alone! Why can't it evolve? /shrug

[DPZ2]

Like,i remember at ARR launch there was this 1man instance to fight a THM summoning a vodiriga or what not, it cast poison on you, and if you don't use antidote, you die. Well it was to difficult apparently to use an antidote, so they had to nerf it until it wasn't needed.

To be clear, this is still in the MSQ ... and the proper response is to use the antidote, which you are given as a reward in an earlier MSQ. It's the ultimate battle for you at level 14. They didn't nerf it, because people can still die if they don't pay attention.

There isn't as much 'nerfing' as people like to believe. Most of that is outleveling or overgearing at this point.

[Xia_Thas]

There isn't as much 'nerfing' as people like to believe. Most of that is outleveling or overgearing at this point.

I'd hate to be the guy who has to figure out all that ARR Spaghetti code just to Nerf one encounter.

[Radacci]

To be clear, this is still in the MSQ ... and the proper response is to use the antidote, which you are given as a reward in an earlier MSQ. It's the ultimate battle for you at level 14. They didn't nerf it, because people can still die if they don't pay attention.

There isn't as much 'nerfing' as people like to believe. Most of that is outleveling or overgearing at this point.

Sure, but before you were guaranteed to die, at that level, now you can pass it without. I saw the fight as a tutorial to use items, because later fights might need them, but now it's not. Anywhere it's deadly, esuna don't work, and it's tied to some mechanic to get rid of it.
Actually, i need to go revisit that fight, as a new character

[DPZ2]

Actually, i need to go revisit that fight, as a new character

I ran through it a week or so ago. I've been popping the antidote since 2014 -- you put it on your bar and click once.

Never found a use for Ether or any of the other early 'potions', though. Seems like the mechanics that required them just don't matter.

[ItMe]

Never found a use for Ether or any of the other early 'potions', though. Seems like the mechanics that required them just don't matter.

Even so, I'd keep using them at higher level (just for the extra cushion / the extra bounce back if I die)... if I had the hotbar space for them.