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  1. #121
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    Astrid Arkwright
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraphAelnzon View Post
    Actually the Dalriada/Castrum is still okay for at least they r popping up really quick these days, the really annoying ones are the fate and ce ones with rarity like 4 or 5 stars especially the "Of Steel and Flame" one which u need to do mob farming and a lot related skirmish to get it popped up. And the worst part is there is a hard cool down for these fates like an hour or more.
    So much of Bozja content is just sitting around waiting for things it's super aggravating.
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  2. #122
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    Seraph Aeln'zon
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    So much of Bozja content is just sitting around waiting for things it's super aggravating.
    Yea that's the biggest problem it really makes u feel boring and upset when nothing dropped after that much time of waiting.
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  3. #123
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Yeah i'll take a break with Bozja, the game taunts me by showering me with Lyon 1 and Dyounbu notes while Dabog nothing and rarely get to do the Vigil CE as well for the duel
    While it is nice seeing big parties working together and shouting for these skirmishes, i know it is just out of desperation and we get to mock how stupid it is at least.
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  4. #124
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    Koroem Kha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wegente View Post
    I don't want to sound like the devil's advocate here (I am still grinding for the mount as well) but I feel like there are way harder (as in more grindy) mounts to get in game, like the Triceratops/Centurio Tiger from Hunts or the Astrope you get by doing 2000 mentor roulettes.

    The patch came out 2 weeks ago and we still have 5 months left until Endwalker comes out. Just take it easy, do a couple Dalriada/Castrum runs a day and you'll have your mounts in a couple months at most.

    This is wrong on mutliple levels. The grindy mounts you mentioned have a set end point. They are intended to be long term goals with a clear ending. They have an associated end point. There is a clear start and finish to obtaining these. Do I need to repeat that another way for it to make sense?

    Field notes are 100% RNG. There is no guarantee. There is no set end. There is no limit to the amount of time that can be wasted attempting to obtain these. Spending 8 hours a day for 5 months does not guarantee one by Endwalker release. Spending 8 hours a day for 10 months doesn't guarantee one 5 months after Endwalker release. 4 or 5 of these notes have inconsistently high RNG associated with them. They need to be increased to be in line with the other obtainable notes. The intention to make them harder is without merit.

    Your logic is flawed and incomplete. RNG of this magnitude should not be acceptable. Gaming has changed over the decades.
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    Last edited by Koroem; 06-05-2021 at 10:38 PM.

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koroem View Post
    This is wrong on mutliple levels. The grindy mounts you mentioned have a set end point. They are intended to be long term goals with a clear ending. They have an associated end point. There is a clear start and finish to obtaining these. Do I need to repeat that another way for it to make sense?

    Field notes are 100% RNG. There is no guarantee. There is no set end. There is no limit to the amount of time that can be wasted attempting to obtain these. Spending 8 hours a day for 5 months does not guarantee one by Endwalker release. Spending 8 hours a day for 10 months doesn't guarantee one 5 months after Endwalker release. 4 or 5 of these notes have inconsistently high RNG associated with them. They need to be increased to be in line with the other obtainable notes. The intention to make them harder is without merit.

    Your logic is flawed and incomplete. RNG of this magnitude should not be acceptable. Gaming has changed over the decades.
    U know the one who made erueka and bozjan is a big fan of those old time hard RNG farming mmos Unless they decide to not let him make anymore contents like this i think there just wont be an end to these things and that's just sad.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koroem View Post
    Your logic is flawed and incomplete. RNG of this magnitude should not be acceptable. Gaming has changed over the decades.
    If you complain about this kind of RNG you should also ask SE to remove RNG from other content like Big Fishing or Triple Triad cards, because it's the same for those. You could farm those for months as well without ever seeing them drop.

    And there are some kinds of fish you can attempt to get only once every few real-time days (or weeks even iirc) because they're gated behind certain weather conditions which have extremely long respawn timers.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wegente View Post
    If you complain about this kind of RNG you should also ask SE to remove RNG from other content like Big Fishing or Triple Triad cards, because it's the same for those. You could farm those for months as well without ever seeing them drop.

    And there are some kinds of fish you can attempt to get only once every few real-time days (or weeks even iirc) because they're gated behind certain weather conditions which have extremely long respawn timers.

    I know all about how dumb the rng is with fishing. I'm at 1,034 / 1140 on unique fish for the resplendent tacklefiend's rod. I'm not a fan of it there either believe me, but I also think the circumstances behind fishing rng, note rng, or say a mount that can only be obtained from one source, like an ex primal/savage mount are entirely seperate content rewards and should be treated as such. There are different levels of acceptability with the mechanics that go into different rewards. The reward difficulty needs to reflect that. Arguing one versus the other is a pointless conversation. In the context of notes, the amount of work required for a select few notes of the total 50 is disproportionately bad.
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  8. #128
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    Azala Shar
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    Agreed, it would give us something to spend platinum coins on since there is only one gear set and no augmented. I am sitting on pile of them after getting all the gear from farming Dalriada for Lyon pt 2 notes....that I still haven't gotten after 31 runs!!
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  9. #129
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    Sophia Bettencourt
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    I don't disagree with you, a lot of people are really used to instant gratification and want it now or want to be the first person to have the new shiny and show it off and rub it in other people's faces. I do think there should be an alternative way to obtain field notes albeit a very high amount of bozjan coins or clusters as well as the current way now. I've done Bozja off and on since it's release and have never received Lyon's or Sartauvoir's notes which is all I need left- and I expect that's just how it will be unless they do increase drop rates or add an alternative method. I'm a very patient person but I do not enjoy grinding mindlessly in Bozja or the RNG put into being picked for duels. I'd like to get out of here asap but no-one is forcing me or anyone else to stay.
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  10. #130
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    I'm fine with the low drop rate in a way but I'm getting kind of tired of the way the skirmishes and CEs work in Bozja. I once stayed for a full instance and helped prep Absent Friends/MDK as well as cluster farmed and did skirmishes off and on to clear them off. Literally EVERY OTHER CE went off. Person who got the Gabriel duel didn't even go in so a waste there. One CE took forever to clear (not sure of the reason, there seemed to have been enough to do good damage) so the others had to wait to spawn. When Absent Friends FINALLY popped I barely had enough time to clear the two skirmishes. Not only is it annoying for people that want to get the notes, it's annoying for people trying to get the Duels.
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