There should be other ways to obtain the Field notes.

[Mahamon]

That's something I noticed right away as well
I still have #14 & #17 I need to finish as well but I was going to get to it once #12 dropped & I've heard Sartauvoir's & Lyon's notes are even worse unless you do the 1v1
I'd like atleast better drop chances if not another means to obtaining them so my time & others players times doesn't feel so wasted.

Oh yeah grandpa Lyon's note is a royal pain in the butt. ������
While every time I read the new notes and the rich lore they provide make me love the team a little more, every time I run CLL and Lyon's note doesn't drop make me love them a little less.
Not sure which one is predominant at this point.

[Greydor]

I've submitted a bug report to have them at least check if the drop rates are working as intended. The notes aren't impossible to obtain, but there's multiple components to even having a chance at getting the card, and those are time-locked and add to the difficulty. Considering notes are, for the most part, novelty content (unlike relics in the past which have a BiS factor), the drop rates seem to not be working as intended (but we'll find out!).

Certain notes are more difficult to obtain than atma (pre-nerf, ~2013) based on the limited opportunities to even have a chance for the note.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-As-Intended

[Mahamon]

I've submitted a bug report to have them at least check if the drop rates are working as intended. The notes aren't impossible to obtain, but there's multiple components to even having a chance at getting the card, and those are time-locked and add to the difficulty. Considering notes are, for the most part, novelty content (unlike relics in the past which have a BiS factor), the drop rates seem to not be working as intended (but we'll find out!).

Certain notes are more difficult to obtain than atma (pre-nerf, ~2013) based on the limited opportunities to even have a chance for the note.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-As-Intended

Yes, yes. The more ways the dev see this, the better. Thank you.

[Jonnycbad]

Just like most things in this game, there are 2 ways to get the item:

1) Skill, guaranteed drop
2) RNG from Skirmish/CE, low drop rate

One is skill (think: savage raiding)
One is time skin (think: tome gear/relic grind)

Zadnor has been out for 1 week, you'll get the things eventually, just keep at it doing the grind while getting mettle for rays, and try to prog duels.

[Tlamila]

I think they want to both keep people grinding notes for a long time (and tbh without the notes grind the front would be dead now since the mettle there isn't worth it) but also not let people get a two-seater too easily. I think this is the first two-seater that you can get in game without paying real money or getting friends to sub, so of course it needs to be really grindy and hard to get.
And yes, there's multiseaters in game for free but 1. they're not two-seaters 2. they're from savage, so not grindy but very hard to get.

That said...yes please, make them drop more easily cause the way people burn through skirmishes now makes them stressful to farm (and it might just get worse as people get more honors)

[Mahamon]

I think they want to both keep people grinding notes for a long time (and tbh without the notes grind the front would be dead now since the mettle there isn't worth it) but also not let people get a two-seater too easily. I think this is the first two-seater that you can get in game without paying real money or getting friends to sub, so of course it needs to be really grindy and hard to get.
And yes, there's multiseaters in game for free but 1. they're not two-seaters 2. they're from savage, so not grindy but very hard to get.

That said...yes please, make them drop more easily cause the way people burn through skirmishes now makes them stressful to farm (and it might just get worse as people get more honors)

I don't mind grindy to be honest. I'm one of those people who enjoy doing Fates for levelling in general. The lack of visible progress is the problem for me personally.
With levelling, you see the exp number going every time. It helps when you have that sense of going forward.
With this kind of RNG drop, it's nothing. You'd either be very lucky and get the drop early then quit the place or stuck there.

[Infindox]

Just like most things in this game, there are 2 ways to get the item:

1) Skill, guaranteed drop
2) RNG from Skirmish/CE, low drop rate

One is skill (think: savage raiding)
One is time skin (think: tome gear/relic grind)

Zadnor has been out for 1 week, you'll get the things eventually, just keep at it doing the grind while getting mettle for rays, and try to prog duels.

Yes but there's an issue. The skirmish that spawns Metal Wolf Chaos which spawns the duel is extremely annoying to pop, and then you have to not only pass that CE perfectly but hope you get picked for it. By that time the other skirmishes that have that note pop up several times. I have the Lyon note but I've noticed Red Chocobo one take a bit to pop as well. And even helping try to spawn it you are still stuck behind rng. We had the Metal Wolf Chaos chain ready to go and everything kept spawning before it. So even if you 100% know how that duel goes you're stuck behind a bunch of hurdles.
Zadnor in general is easier to get to the duels or grind becuase of mettle and such, and I really think they should fix Bozja to match it

[DeerpyHooves]

After having been in southern front since it released, and casually trying to get all the notes for completion, it wasn't such a pain because there was no reward. But after the bike was a thing I've been actively grinding it, and spending way too much time in there, attempting the duel, for it in the end, to be too much and I ended up feeling like I just straight up wasted my time spent waiting, farming and prepping for duels with notoriety and all. I've given up for now and hopefully they'll change something about the droprate, add a vendor for notes with a high payment of coins or something like others suggested in this thread. I can only pray at this point.

[HeyMcFly]

I'd like to add that today & yesterday I've been able to spend most of the entire day grinding for only the Dyunbu Field Note, #12
But I've been at this for a few days & stay until near lockout

I've only missed 3 of her skirmishes bc when I arrived they were already 70-90%
I've been to each of Dyunbu's skirmishes & not had a single field note drop- I've gotten several chests from her skirmish, which drop trash (thanks SE)
At this rate, I'm convinced her note is bugged & has a lower drop rate than the supposed "Rare" ones
I wish I could trade in the Chest that will drop from her for her field note

[johnnylogen1337]

its really weird how they give us a system to counter frustrating RNG in the form of books from savage but dont apply this to most of the other content. farming for certain dungeon pieces for glamour can get really frustrating.
they made the delubrum hair at first only obtainable via RNG and now buyable with enough currency, only to make the same mistake again. what gives?

incredibly hard duels that you need to cheese to win.

you dont need to cheese them to win at all lol. in terms of difficulty they are around extreme i would say, very doable, the hard (and frustrating) part is the RNG of getting into those duels.