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  1. #81
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    In hindsight, when considering the absurd variety of different Garlean technologies Sicinius had access to, if Gabranth and Lyon opted to seize those from him they could feasibly build a new IVth legion by simply creating an army of autonomous magitek and super-powered clone soldiers provided they had the requisite manpower.

    It did feel a little underwhelming that the Garlean empire conveniently collapsed right after they had started dabble in new technology that would've made them a horrific threat to the Eorzean Alliance, so I'm kind of hoping it ends up resurfacing in significant capacity, whether in the MSQ or sidequests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    I think we won't see those forum posts because we will meet with Lyon again, and we will see the event in an echo flashback.
    I also think that the two weapons will be used by Lyon and Pagaga and we will see those again.
    The only part that really bothers me about all of it is the 'resistance wins' part...
    Remember Menenius II field notes...it's implied by Menenius in them that Noah already has a puppet high up in the Dalmascan Resistance that he can manipulate to make his idealistic country. It's very likely that they only won because he wanted them to win at this juncture. And depending on how they play his puppet...it's very possible that it could even be the princess herself since she's suffering from memory issues currently.
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  3. #83
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    The only thing I'm curious about is... Isn't that axe literally just the Second-tier Omega axe? You also see bozjans wielding it on multiple occasions...

    But all in all this thread is PHENOMENAL and gives me so much hope for the future of Hydaelyn's rendition of Ivalice.
    Other things that make me hopeful aside from literally anything mentioned are..
    -Well, we're still missing Vayne's, Ashe's, Al-Cid's, and Cid's outfits. I can totally see some of those being a thing we get down the line.
    -Also the fact that so many different conclusion skirmishes resulted in the foes being like "Til we meet again" or something to that effect. Pagaga and Daguza stand out here.
    -Then Meryall's text in the camp, as well as Fran's parting words.
    -The Nagxians/Oboro&Tsubame's surprise inclusions.
    -AND Hien's notes kind of alluding to this being a continuation.

    I honestly feel like each of the field notes are pieces of a grander puzzle.
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  4. #84
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    I wonder if they will continue with the Ivalice stuff?


    If this is to be believed then Matsuno might no longer be working with FFXIV team any more and it might explain why we got those Field Records by the end.

    That said, it could still be continued up by a different writer in the team maybe?
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  5. #85
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Well crap. Why do I suspect the higher-ups at SE tried to interfere since he has worked with 2 storylines for the MMO already without being an employee? Matsuno isn't really a fan of them after the executive meddling of FF12.

    I have a feeling if it continues in the future, it may become MSQ without us having to do Bozja (considering the reported death and all that). As for the writer...perhaps the HW writer since he did a real good job with the Dragonsong War?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I wonder if they will continue with the Ivalice stuff?


    If this is to be believed then Matsuno might no longer be working with FFXIV team any more and it might explain why we got those Field Records by the end.
    I'd say this is a pretty convincing argument for why the Field Notes randomly wrap up most of the story, if not all of it, via offscreen future events. That's a damn shame if true—I was more hooked on the plot for Return to Ivalice and Save the Queen than I was for certain parts of Shadowbringers' story. To say nothing of the YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse plotline, which is the first time I've ever felt crossover content came at the expense of the game itself.

    Between this and the festival teased during Eden's Promise (5.4) never materializing, I have to admit to feeling a little let down. Then again, I haven't felt like logging on the past few weeks anyways, so perhaps that's just me trying to justify my lack of interest in playing until Endwalker (or an event, if there's glamour to be had).
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Well crap. Why do I suspect the higher-ups at SE tried to interfere since he has worked with 2 storylines for the MMO already without being an employee? Matsuno isn't really a fan of them after the executive meddling of FF12.

    I have a feeling if it continues in the future, it may become MSQ without us having to do Bozja (considering the reported death and all that). As for the writer...perhaps the HW writer since he did a real good job with the Dragonsong War?
    Maehiro is most likely (not confirmed) working on FFXVI... So maybe after he's done there?
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    All I will mention at this time is this--

    My immense disappointment in not being able to battle Noah at the end remains unabated-- that was a missed opportunity to develop an epic closure to the tale. I'll make the excuse for the Dev team that they were too busy with 6.0 to give this story arc the ending it deserved.

    However-- I reckon we will see him in Endwalker.
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    The way I'd interpreted the field notes on Gabranth with Lyon "assassinating" him was that Gabranth really did fall sick. He couldn't see his dream through, and Lyon gave him a merciful euthanization. I'm welcome to see more of this storyline, but I do think that it was concluded. At least as a war time/full blown area type of content.

    I suspect we may meet Lyon in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    The way I'd interpreted the field notes on Gabranth with Lyon "assassinating" him was that Gabranth really did fall sick. He couldn't see his dream through, and Lyon gave him a merciful euthanization. I'm welcome to see more of this storyline, but I do think that it was concluded. At least as a war time/full blown area type of content.

    I suspect we may meet Lyon in the future.
    Agreed, I understood it that way too. Actually I view it as a possible future, but the last cutscene they gave, still showing Gabranth around Dalmasca, I hope that we'll go there again soon, maybe starting at 6.1+ as some said or for another eureka/relic-like content (though it would be repetitive to have 2 relic contents in the same region)
    However, there's something that bothered me, if someone can explain...
    In Lyon's note it's said that he's 68 year old, but in the same time he was not even 20 year old when he got command over a legion when Bozja was invaded but the Bozja citadel accident happened barely 10 years prior to the 7th Calamity so let's say about 15 years prior to present events (at most 20 years if we take 1 expansion = 1 year),
    So how can he possibly be this aged in 20 years max only... either the field notes describe some futures for some characters and in that case the age mentioned is for the future mentioned or the age mentioned is at present regardless what is said in the said note...
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