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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    I will gladly tell you why it's bad in dungeons. Earlier I mentioned my own personal standard, DRK & WAR. Once per big pull, I can use aurora and potentially heal up to 27%. Aside from this healing, GNB has nothing else aside from traditional mitigation that all tanks have, and camo.

    However, as DRK I can use TBN every 15 seconds and that's 25% hp everytime, and STILL have abyssal drain at my disposal which easily beats out aurora in a big pull. As WAR, well, I have bene basically that I can use a couple times per pull via NF+CC, and this doesn't even mention ToB+Eq.

    Compared to the aforementioned, aurora is bad. GNB has no real sustain. It requires attention, more than any other tank purely out of the virtue of having less than all the others in terms of dungeon mitigation.

    Also, if a bunch of things are hitting me for about 5k per hit, rampart reduces it to 4k a hit. If I have 8 targets, that's about 8k hp that I saved per round of hits. After four rounds of hits, I've mitigated more than aurora, and that's after like 12 seconds and rampart can still mitigate more, I don't understand how aurora could do more than rampart to mitigate a pull.
    Okay so this is the foundation where we are disagreeing then. I wasnt talking here about comparisons to other classes i was talking about wether aurora is an intrinsically bad skill, not is it bad compared to NF or TBN, because i established page 1 that GNB is worse than WAR and DRK and better than PLD. Being worse than something else does not make a thing intrinsically bad it just makes it worse than the other thing. In a vacuum GNB is not bad at dealing with dungeons, no tank is, and in a vacuum aurora is an effective heal over time. And with proper cd rotations you can still heal a gnb through a dungeon with no more attention needed than the other tanks (because dungeons are balanced around the very low end).

    EDIT: on the topic of "less than all the others" im still going to say its better than pld, cos if your pld is having to spam clem somethings very wrong, and outside of clem, pld has less to use.

    On your final paragraph, again i refer you to the maths not anedote. On a 200k hp even if we were to say that aurora only healed 40k, you would need to take your entire healhbars worth of damage while rampart is up for the rampart to mitigate 40k (200k*0.2=40k). Now it might just be the folks i run with, but outside of maybe the large pull at the start of pag, i dont remember trashpacks dealing my whole healthbar 20s, but id happily go and check.
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