GNB Mit

[RinaB]

GNB has acceptable mitigation in raids, bad mitigation in dungeon. For those wondering what criteria I'm comparing it to, it's DRK and WAR.

GNB needs to be babied in dungeons because aurora is just not very good with it's weak HoT, and no way to sustain itself other than putting on standard mitigation.

Yeah, this is sort of why I made this thread. I can tank paradigm and 8 man's without really feeling like I'm taking dmg but you do a gauntlet or something and you're popping everything constantly and picking your teeth up afterwards. I would like to see HoS last for at least 10 seconds, remove aurora (because the hot tick is ridiculously small when I'm running around with 208k) and see a beefier camouflage. Keep the parry and make it 20% dmg reduction.

[ReiMakoto]

Yeah, this is sort of why I made this thread. I can tank paradigm and 8 man's without really feeling like I'm taking dmg but you do a gauntlet or something and you're popping everything constantly and picking your teeth up afterwards. I would like to see HoS last for at least 10 seconds, remove aurora (because the hot tick is ridiculously small when I'm running around with 208k) and see a beefier camouflage. Keep the parry and make it 20% dmg reduction.

Aurora is a minimum 60k+ heal in good gear, more with crits. It is the equivalent or wars equilibrium in healing, its not a small amount. Making camo have that change you suggested would make camo way too strong, it'd be stronger than rampart even though it is bonus mitigation. You should always be cycling your cooldowns in dungeons anyway, and if you have 200k health your gear is good enough that if you mitigate properly you should barely need healing in dungeons anyway.

[Hierro]

Bro, aurora sucks. Period. Equilibrium has the benefit of giving you all the healing when you need it at that very moment. A HoT has to wait to receive it's total benefit. Also, equilibrium can be buffed when used with ToB.

Point being, I wouldn't even say Equilibrium is great healing on it's own, let alone aurora.

[Launched]

Bro, aurora sucks. Period. Equilibrium has the benefit of giving you all the healing when you need it at that very moment. A HoT has to wait to receive it's total benefit. Also, equilibrium can be buffed when used with ToB.

They're different skills. Regens aren't bad, you don't have to wait until you're low on HP to use Aurora. Use it when you're high on HP or early in a pull and it's just as good because it smooths out incoming damage. Plus it can be used on other party members.
Thrill isn't up for every Equilibrium.

Point being, I wouldn't even say Equilibrium is great healing on it's own, let alone aurora.

Well, you'd be wrong. It all adds up to reduce healer GCDs spent on healing.

[ReiMakoto]

Bro, aurora sucks. Period. Equilibrium has the benefit of giving you all the healing when you need it at that very moment. A HoT has to wait to receive it's total benefit. Also, equilibrium can be buffed when used with ToB.

Point being, I wouldn't even say Equilibrium is great healing on it's own, let alone aurora.

Aurora only sucks as much as the people using it. Put it another way, lets take that 60k number i mentioned before, that means aurora is essentially "mitigating" 60k worth of damage provided your healers arnt overhealing you like idiots. In order for a rampart to mitigate 60k worth of damage on a 200k hp tank you would need to take 1.5* your healthbar in damage while the 20% mitigation from rampart is up. Outside of some nasty split busters which you arnt invulning for some reason you arnt going to take that much damage. Provided you have a remotely competent healer, its nothing to sniff at, let alone suggest removing like the person i responded to suggested.