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  1. #1
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    Radacci's Avatar
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Alchemist make potions, so i don't see why they'd add chemist that toss potions at people - they can just buy potions and use them - it's kind of weird theme to have "toss" as job description.
    If it use guns, it just sounds like a Machinist as a healer - like, instead of auto crossbow, you shoot healing syringes at your party? The whole thing just sounds so weird to me.
    Sage with ion cannon sound more interesting as far as science barrier-healer goes though.
    Or Ironworks created a time-machine, so you could have a science based time manipulator to reverse damage, and cause damage to enemies - i don't see the the point in potions or such.

    Well, i think the only reason they brought it up, is because a lot of ppl have requested it, and still do, but if they haven't yet in how many years? Then the concept is still weird to them too. I don't think it's just "writing themselves in a corner" it's just a weird theme. It feels like grasping at straws, to try making it work.

    but if they manage to do something interesting with it, then by all means.
    I thought Dancer was awkward too, but they ended up adding it, and it's still awkward i hope they revamp it like they did with MCH.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I think I remember reading somewhere that the dev doesn't fancy the idea of having a non-magic wielding healer (they think it's 'weird') so they drop it entirely. Sage is what they eventually came up with.
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Unfortunately I feel that if Chemist ever reaches XIV it'll be as a physical ranged DPS, because of the whole "can't think of it as as Healer, because Casters". Mix between Dancer and Ninja. They'd use a hand-cannon like FFTA2 Cannoneers and their thing would be that their big "Ninjutsu/Step" CD would be Mix where they input several ingredients in the cannon and release them as a "mist" buffing the party or debuffing the enemies.
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    As long it took to get a 4th healer...I HIGHLY doubt we will get chemist in the following expansion after endwalkers. That's roughly 6 years.

    I would think if we were to get chemist it would be called Apothecary just to differentiate it from Alchemist. Just tad confusing from that aspect.

    Chemist would more then likely be a DPS/support job at this point with the addition of Sage.

    Chemist would be a PERFECT fit to stand with DNC, BRD for supporting the raid/party with potions, concoctions, mixtures, poisons.

    I don't want SE to give up on this either as I would like to see the FFX-2 Chemist personally.
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    As long it took to get a 4th healer...I HIGHLY doubt we will get chemist in the following expansion after endwalkers. That's roughly 6 years.

    I would think if we were to get chemist it would be called Apothecary just to differentiate it from Alchemist. Just tad confusing from that aspect.

    Chemist would more then likely be a DPS/support job at this point with the addition of Sage.

    Chemist would be a PERFECT fit to stand with DNC, BRD for supporting the raid/party with potions, concoctions, mixtures, poisons.

    I don't want SE to give up on this either as I would like to see the FFX-2 Chemist personally.
    Id be severely angry if it ever became a dps. If it were a healer that did more dps than others, then that would be fine. but chemist should never be a dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Unfortunately I feel that if Chemist ever reaches XIV it'll be as a physical ranged DPS, because of the whole "can't think of it as as Healer, because Casters". Mix between Dancer and Ninja. They'd use a hand-cannon like FFTA2 Cannoneers and their thing would be that their big "Ninjutsu/Step" CD would be Mix where they input several ingredients in the cannon and release them as a "mist" buffing the party or debuffing the enemies.
    No way in hell it will not. Chemist will be a healer just like it has always been.
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    I think that they wanted to introduce a job that would offer a competitive alternative to SCH's near perpetual raid slot in most groups. That's the underlying point behind the new 'pure'/'shield' healer subroles. Chemist probably would be better suited for a ground effect based regen healer that let you 'Mix' overlapping effects, but WHM/AST already have their own rivalry going on for the remaining healer slot. I would have preferred a chemist style healer as well (and would hope that it's their next healer design), but this is probably healthier for the game at the moment.

    This is what they did with BRD's raid slot as well. Create a subrole around it, then introduce alternatives. Variety is important, and sometimes you just have to dislodge the reigning champ from a guaranteed locked slot.
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Kujata
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    People here like to latch on to the smallest of details and make leaps of logic to guess the next jobs coming in the upcoming expansions.
    Who says it's going to be the First job? I don't think anyone is stupid enough to want that.

    I disagree that it's a leaps of logic. We knew a new healer is coming, then in msq emwe got an npc who specifically wants to be the WoL, but by healing people with potion. If they just want to hint in new healer, why specify the potion? If anything, by the recent interview they did intend to make chemist, but have problem with it and turn it into sage. Most probably that's why sage took a long time to develop (unlike reaper which took three months to developed from start to the current build).

    As for the "it should be DoM job", I don't really see a problem? Just make them do casting for their skills. If brd can be bow mage I'm sure chemist can too. Just say that they're imbuing the portions with aether before chucking it. Mixing potions? Do it a la TCJ or healer steps, and it would result in three charges of potions (like aetherflow). Magic is just flavor animation anyway.

    I love sage, but I don't want them to give up on chemist either.
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    Mimi Bellerose
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    Machinist Lv 90
    With SE going the direction of healers being split into multiple categories like DPS are, I think Chemist, at least regarding how most of us expect it to play, would likely make a third category of healers that aren’t mages. With TP scrapped, the devs would need an entirely new resource for chemists to tap into for their skills, and balancing that with the mages who have have the same pool of resources would be a nightmare.

    One thing, however, is Astrologian essentially gave us Geomancer without actually giving us Geomancer. With Sage looking to be “science healer,” I wouldn’t put it past the devs to shoehorn some Chemist stuff in the abilities and story of Sage.
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Monk Lv 90
    Throwing a potion to your party memeber’s face looks like hurting them more than healing them to me.
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