I don't want the devs to give up on Chemist

[Bright-Flower]

I wonder how they'd get it to work honestly. I'm not sure how far they'd go with a mix mechanic for healing. If a dps messes up a mudra or dance, oops they lose some dps, not the end of the world. Not so sure they'd want to tie important healing mechanics to mixing though, and they seem adverse to giving healers much in terms of dps mechanics now.

Maybe as a sort of analog to cards where they mix to give a party buff?

[Sairys]

I wonder how they'd get it to work honestly. I'm not sure how far they'd go with a mix mechanic for healing. If a dps messes up a mudra or dance, oops they lose some dps, not the end of the world. Not so sure they'd want to tie important healing mechanics to mixing though, and they seem adverse to giving healers much in terms of dps mechanics now.

Maybe as a sort of analog to cards where they mix to give a party buff?

Kinda depends on where you implement it.

Buffs do seem more likely and given mix is really about well... mixing two things together you could potentially also have some mechanic around reagents.

Maybe you mix them together, maybe you just have abilities that prime a specific one, etc. Their gauge could show their active reagent similar to AST showing cards and the reagents could add additional effects to their potion/bomb "spells".

So, in combat you could prime a reagent and if you use a heal it might deliver an AOE buff depending on the type of heal, centered the same way the spell is. This way it shouldn't interfere with healing if you mess up, it's just the bonus on top you don't get.

You could also go deeper and make things more complex having different effects for different stuff, like single target vs aoe, attack vs heal.

[Soge01]

Plague Doctor Chemist with modified fire arms that shoot potion bullets. Like Ana from Overwatch.

[Sairys]

Could have it play as a ranged DPS, use the Mudra System, and allow them to apply salves or whatever to boost healing, damage, etc.

Eh, mix is really about taking two things and putting them together to get an effect. It's actually closer to a really flexible two step combo system.

That said... we already have that kind of mechanic within DPS and its not like it'd be difficult to make Chemist a DPS. But making it a healer means getting that sort of mechanic in a completely different role, also making Chemists a dps would also make them compete with other potential dps jobs on everyones wish lists.

[Hysterior]

People who suggest that Chemist as a dps, have no respect for classic healer jobs. Would you be fine with White Mage being a DPS? Just stop.

Hi Karen,

First, regarding the "no respect for classic healer job". I am a WHM main, I don't think there is a more classic healer job in Final Fantasy.

SE has changed job roles in the past. In FF11, DRK was a DPS who could use Scythes. In 14, it is a tank and Scythes went to Reaper. It can clearly be done.
+ Chemist/Alchemist have always had the ability to dish some damage, not only heal. In FF14, i culd see them fit nicely into a range DPS role like DNC or BRD, with DPS being their role AND have the ability to support.

Just use your imagination, it is not THAT hard.
You sound like one of those who wanted to fit Geomancer into a healer role as well....

[Bright-Flower]

Kinda depends on where you implement it.

Buffs do seem more likely and given mix is really about well... mixing two things together you could potentially also have some mechanic around reagents.

Maybe you mix them together, maybe you just have abilities that prime a specific one, etc. Their gauge could show their active reagent similar to AST showing cards and the reagents could add additional effects to their potion/bomb "spells".

So, in combat you could prime a reagent and if you use a heal it might deliver an AOE buff depending on the type of heal, centered the same way the spell is. This way it shouldn't interfere with healing if you mess up, it's just the bonus on top you don't get.

You could also go deeper and make things more complex having different effects for different stuff, like single target vs aoe, attack vs heal.

Maybe the mix would have 2-3 different ogcd things you could hit on a shared cooldown that would augment certain heals in different ways? I don't think they'd want to lock a healer down for mutliple gcds like dances etc but maybe something like that to add a buff to your next healing spell or something, like adding a shield or hot or damage buff or something.

[Reaperking386]

Let it die. Be happy they at least they tried to come up with some ideas with the class and appease the fans. The simple fact they couldn't come up with anything interesting is telling as it is. The class is simply not interesting enough or unique enough to be a playable class for the players. The Dev's do a lot of for us and if they couldn't do it then that is that. At least you have male bunny boys and sage as your consolation prize.

[DamianFatale]

Let it die. Be happy they at least they tried to come up with some ideas with the class and appease the fans. The simple fact they couldn't come up with anything interesting is telling as it is. The class is simply not interesting enough or unique enough to be a playable class for the players. The Dev's do a lot of for us and if they couldn't do it then that is that. At least you have male bunny boys and sage as your consolation prize.

No. That's not the point of this post lol.

[Fland]

Maybe the mix would have 2-3 different ogcd things you could hit on a shared cooldown that would augment certain heals in different ways? I don't think they'd want to lock a healer down for mutliple gcds like dances etc but maybe something like that to add a buff to your next healing spell or something, like adding a shield or hot or damage buff or something.

It's better for something that is not direct heal, like shield or buffs. Something that you can prepare for.
A direct heal OGCDs, especially the "oh shit" ones need to be applied instantly and not suitable for something like a mix skill.

[demonofelru]

People who suggest that Chemist as a dps, have no respect for classic healer jobs. Would you be fine with White Mage being a DPS? Just stop.

In no Final Fantasy game would Chemist be classified as a pure healer class. It is a pure support class. it enhances healing items, sure, but it also creates buff, debuff and even high damage items.

In Tactics, it is the base class for all mage jobs.